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There is no correlation between the number of places for surgical education and the real demand for surgeons. In Bavaria 86.7% of all surgeons licensed to train surgeons between 1-6 ys. took part in an inquiry. They asked for 25-30% surgeons in their residency staff but got only 8-24% in reality. In addition 60.2% of all resident wait for a place to finish their surgical training in fully licensed hospitals. In a big community hospital there are no problems for residents to get the needed number of operations. Beside this surgical education should include 6 months clinical training in ICU, 2.5 ys. general, 1.5 trauma and 1 year vascular-thoracis surgery. Basic science and research can be done only in universities, but clinical control of patients outcome, i.e. in tumor patients is mandatory.

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[成为一名外科医生——在大型社区医院]。
外科教育场所的数量与外科医生的实际需求之间没有相关性。在巴伐利亚州,86.7%的获得执照的外科医生在1-6岁之间培训外科医生。参加调查。他们要求住院医师中有25-30%是外科医生,但实际上只有8-24%。此外,60.2%的住院医生在完全有执照的医院等待一个地方完成他们的外科培训。在一个大的社区医院里,居民获得所需数量的手术是没有问题的。此外,外科教育应包括6个月的ICU临床培训,2.5年。一般,1.5年创伤和1年血管胸外科。基础科学和研究只能在大学进行,但对患者结局的临床控制,即对肿瘤患者的临床控制是强制性的。
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