{"title":"Victoria Kennefick","authors":"Victoria Kennefick, Kelly Sullivan","doi":"10.1353/eir.2023.a910473","DOIUrl":null,"url":null,"abstract":"Victoria Kennefick Victoria Kennefick and Kelly Sullivan victoria kennefick’s debut collection Eat or We Both Starve (Carcanet, 2021) won the Seamus Heaney First Collection Poetry Prize and the Dalkey Book Festival Emerging Writer of the Year Award. It was shortlisted for the T. S. Eliot Prize, the Costa Poetry Book Award, the Derek Walcott Prize for Poetry, and the Butler Literary Prize. A University College Dublin/Arts Council of Ireland Writer-in-Residence 2023, Victoria is a poetry editor for the online journal bath magg. ________ Kelly Sullivan spoke with Victoria Kennefick via Zoom on 24 February 2023. This interview has been edited for length and clarity. kelly sullivan: Do you remember when you first encountered Seamus Heaney’s poetry? Was it in a school course or was it on your own? victoria kennefick: I remember the moment clearly and so viscer-ally. I went to a very small national school in Shanagarry, Co. Cork, with three grades in the same room together. It was a very intense and crazy environment. We did a lot of Irish and maths, so whenever we moved into English I was thrilled, especially if we read poetry. And we did quite a lot of poetry. I distinctly remember the day that we read “Mid-Term Break.” I must have been ten or eleven and can still remember where the poem was on the page in the book and the picture that was next to it. When a teacher read it aloud to us, the other classes that were supposed to be working away on other topics stopped what they were doing to listen. I remember being incredibly moved by the extent of the loss in the poem. Later, when I realized that it was Heaney’s own brother, [End Page 218] I understood what a profound effect that must have had on him as a boy. “Mid-Term Break” has always an important poem in Heaney’s oeuvre because it’s the one that most Irish people know after encountering it in primary school. It offers insight into Heaney’s beginnings as a poet because of its focus on a life altering event for a sensitive child. I believe this sudden awareness of mortality in addition to the intensity of living in Northern Ireland must have changed his trajectory about what he was going to do with his life—about how life can shift on a penny. The poem broke my heart and still does each time I read it. sullivan: When you were in school and reading Heaney, were you also writing poetry? Did you think of yourself as a poet then? kennefick: I’m glad you asked the question as if it was a normal thing to feel like a poet—because it didn’t feel normal to me. I didn’t understand who I was, but once I could understand language and certainly once I could hold a pen, I felt as if I were a poet. Writing poetry was the only job I wanted or could do [laughter] although it didn’t seem to be a viable one. And yet there were all these poets. I felt I was in this lost liminal space. Both my mother’s and father’s families learned poems by rote as children and were always spouting bits of Shakespeare and long poems like “Ode to a Nightingale,” a serious undertaking to recite aloud. So poetry was very much part of the fabric of my experience even if I couldn’t see where I could slot it in on a practical level. When I read “Mid-Term Break” and when I encountered more of Heaney’s work, I felt a sense of recognition—a sense that he was a sensitive “child poet” too. And I believed that he stepped into that role through the terrible experience of his brother’s dying. I also felt a sense of duty towards commemoration—toward honoring a particular moment; even as a child that responsibility Heaney shows resonated with me. sullivan: When did you first start publishing poems? kennefick: It took me a while to publish poems because I didn’t know how [laughter], and as a young...","PeriodicalId":43507,"journal":{"name":"EIRE-IRELAND","volume":null,"pages":null},"PeriodicalIF":0.2000,"publicationDate":"2023-03-01","publicationTypes":"Journal Article","fieldsOfStudy":null,"isOpenAccess":false,"openAccessPdf":"","citationCount":"0","resultStr":null,"platform":"Semanticscholar","paperid":null,"PeriodicalName":"EIRE-IRELAND","FirstCategoryId":"1085","ListUrlMain":"https://doi.org/10.1353/eir.2023.a910473","RegionNum":4,"RegionCategory":"社会学","ArticlePicture":[],"TitleCN":null,"AbstractTextCN":null,"PMCID":null,"EPubDate":"","PubModel":"","JCR":"0","JCRName":"HUMANITIES, MULTIDISCIPLINARY","Score":null,"Total":0}
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Victoria Kennefick Victoria Kennefick and Kelly Sullivan victoria kennefick’s debut collection Eat or We Both Starve (Carcanet, 2021) won the Seamus Heaney First Collection Poetry Prize and the Dalkey Book Festival Emerging Writer of the Year Award. It was shortlisted for the T. S. Eliot Prize, the Costa Poetry Book Award, the Derek Walcott Prize for Poetry, and the Butler Literary Prize. A University College Dublin/Arts Council of Ireland Writer-in-Residence 2023, Victoria is a poetry editor for the online journal bath magg. ________ Kelly Sullivan spoke with Victoria Kennefick via Zoom on 24 February 2023. This interview has been edited for length and clarity. kelly sullivan: Do you remember when you first encountered Seamus Heaney’s poetry? Was it in a school course or was it on your own? victoria kennefick: I remember the moment clearly and so viscer-ally. I went to a very small national school in Shanagarry, Co. Cork, with three grades in the same room together. It was a very intense and crazy environment. We did a lot of Irish and maths, so whenever we moved into English I was thrilled, especially if we read poetry. And we did quite a lot of poetry. I distinctly remember the day that we read “Mid-Term Break.” I must have been ten or eleven and can still remember where the poem was on the page in the book and the picture that was next to it. When a teacher read it aloud to us, the other classes that were supposed to be working away on other topics stopped what they were doing to listen. I remember being incredibly moved by the extent of the loss in the poem. Later, when I realized that it was Heaney’s own brother, [End Page 218] I understood what a profound effect that must have had on him as a boy. “Mid-Term Break” has always an important poem in Heaney’s oeuvre because it’s the one that most Irish people know after encountering it in primary school. It offers insight into Heaney’s beginnings as a poet because of its focus on a life altering event for a sensitive child. I believe this sudden awareness of mortality in addition to the intensity of living in Northern Ireland must have changed his trajectory about what he was going to do with his life—about how life can shift on a penny. The poem broke my heart and still does each time I read it. sullivan: When you were in school and reading Heaney, were you also writing poetry? Did you think of yourself as a poet then? kennefick: I’m glad you asked the question as if it was a normal thing to feel like a poet—because it didn’t feel normal to me. I didn’t understand who I was, but once I could understand language and certainly once I could hold a pen, I felt as if I were a poet. Writing poetry was the only job I wanted or could do [laughter] although it didn’t seem to be a viable one. And yet there were all these poets. I felt I was in this lost liminal space. Both my mother’s and father’s families learned poems by rote as children and were always spouting bits of Shakespeare and long poems like “Ode to a Nightingale,” a serious undertaking to recite aloud. So poetry was very much part of the fabric of my experience even if I couldn’t see where I could slot it in on a practical level. When I read “Mid-Term Break” and when I encountered more of Heaney’s work, I felt a sense of recognition—a sense that he was a sensitive “child poet” too. And I believed that he stepped into that role through the terrible experience of his brother’s dying. I also felt a sense of duty towards commemoration—toward honoring a particular moment; even as a child that responsibility Heaney shows resonated with me. sullivan: When did you first start publishing poems? kennefick: It took me a while to publish poems because I didn’t know how [laughter], and as a young...
维多利亚·肯纳菲克的处女作《要么吃饭,要么我们都饿死》(Carcanet出版社,2021年出版)获得了谢默斯·希尼首集诗歌奖和达尔基图书节年度新进作家奖。它曾入围t·s·艾略特奖、科斯塔诗歌图书奖、德里克·沃尔科特诗歌奖和巴特勒文学奖。维多利亚是都柏林大学学院/爱尔兰艺术委员会2023年驻校作家,她是在线期刊bath magg的诗歌编辑。________凯利·沙利文于2023年2月24日通过Zoom与维多利亚·肯纳菲克进行了交谈。为了篇幅和清晰度,这篇采访经过了编辑。凯利·沙利文:你还记得你第一次看到谢默斯·希尼的诗是什么时候吗?是学校的课程还是你自己的?维多利亚·肯纳菲克:我清楚地记得那一刻,如此真切。我上的是位于科克郡沙纳加里的一所很小的国立学校,三个年级的学生在同一个教室里。这是一个非常紧张和疯狂的环境。我们做了很多爱尔兰语和数学,所以每当我们进入英语时,我都很兴奋,特别是当我们读诗的时候。我们写了很多诗。我清楚地记得我们读《期中假期》的那一天。我当时一定是十岁或十一岁,还记得那首诗在书上的什么地方,以及它旁边的图片。当一位老师大声朗读给我们听时,其他应该继续学习其他主题的班级就会停下手头的工作去听。我记得我被诗中失去的程度深深打动了。后来,当我意识到这是希尼的亲哥哥时,我明白了这对他小时候一定产生了多么深远的影响。《期中休息》一直是希尼作品中很重要的一首诗,因为这首诗是大多数爱尔兰人在小学读到的。它提供了希尼作为诗人的开端的洞察力,因为它关注的是一个敏感的孩子改变生活的事件。我相信这种对死亡的突然意识,加上在北爱尔兰的紧张生活,一定改变了他的人生轨迹,改变了他的人生轨迹,改变了他的人生轨迹,改变了他的人生轨迹,改变了他的人生轨迹。这首诗伤透了我的心,直到现在我每次读它都伤透了心。沙利文:当你在学校读希尼的时候,你也写诗吗?那时候你觉得自己是个诗人吗?肯尼菲克:我很高兴你问这个问题,好像觉得自己像个诗人是一件很正常的事情——因为对我来说,这并不正常。我不明白我是谁,但一旦我能听懂语言,当然一旦我能握笔,我觉得自己好像是一个诗人。写诗是我唯一想做或能做的工作(笑),尽管它似乎不可行。然而有那么多诗人。我觉得我在这个迷失的空间里。我父母的家人从小就死记硬背诗歌,他们总是滔滔不绝地背诵莎士比亚的诗和《夜莺颂》(Ode to a Nightingale)等长诗,这是一项需要大声背诵的严肃任务。所以诗歌是我经历的重要组成部分,即使我不知道在实际层面上我能把它放在哪里。当我读到《期中休息》时,当我接触到更多希尼的作品时,我感到一种认同感——一种他也是一个敏感的“儿童诗人”的感觉。我相信他是在经历了他哥哥去世的可怕经历后才成为这个角色的。我也有一种纪念的责任感——纪念一个特殊的时刻;即使在我还是个孩子的时候,希尼所表现出的责任感也让我产生了共鸣。沙利文:你是什么时候开始出版诗歌的?肯尼菲克:我花了一段时间才出版诗歌,因为我不知道如何(笑),而且作为一个年轻人……
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An interdisciplinary scholarly journal of international repute, Éire Ireland is the leading forum in the flourishing field of Irish Studies. Since 1966, Éire-Ireland has published a wide range of imaginative work and scholarly articles from all areas of the arts, humanities, and social sciences relating to Ireland and Irish America.