{"title":"Uncountable sets and an infinite linear order game","authors":"Tonatiuh Matos-Wiederhold, Luciano Salvetti","doi":"arxiv-2408.14624","DOIUrl":null,"url":null,"abstract":"An infinite game on the set of real numbers appeared in Matthew Baker's work\n[Math. Mag. 80 (2007), no. 5, pp. 377--380] in which he asks whether it can\nhelp characterize countable subsets of the reals. This question is in a similar\nspirit to how the Banach-Mazur Game characterizes meager sets in an arbitrary\ntopological space. In a recent paper, Will Brian and Steven Clontz prove that in Baker's game,\nPlayer II has a winning strategy if and only if the payoff set is countable.\nThey also asked if it is possible, in general linear orders, for Player II to\nhave a winning strategy on some uncountable set. To this we give a positive answer and moreover construct, for every infinite\ncardinal $\\kappa$, a dense linear order of size $\\kappa$ on which Player II has\na winning strategy on all payoff sets. We finish with some future research\nquestions, further underlining the difficulty in generalizing the\ncharacterization of Brian and Clontz to linear orders.","PeriodicalId":501306,"journal":{"name":"arXiv - MATH - Logic","volume":"5 1","pages":""},"PeriodicalIF":0.0000,"publicationDate":"2024-08-26","publicationTypes":"Journal Article","fieldsOfStudy":null,"isOpenAccess":false,"openAccessPdf":"","citationCount":"0","resultStr":null,"platform":"Semanticscholar","paperid":null,"PeriodicalName":"arXiv - MATH - Logic","FirstCategoryId":"1085","ListUrlMain":"https://doi.org/arxiv-2408.14624","RegionNum":0,"RegionCategory":null,"ArticlePicture":[],"TitleCN":null,"AbstractTextCN":null,"PMCID":null,"EPubDate":"","PubModel":"","JCR":"","JCRName":"","Score":null,"Total":0}
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Abstract
An infinite game on the set of real numbers appeared in Matthew Baker's work
[Math. Mag. 80 (2007), no. 5, pp. 377--380] in which he asks whether it can
help characterize countable subsets of the reals. This question is in a similar
spirit to how the Banach-Mazur Game characterizes meager sets in an arbitrary
topological space. In a recent paper, Will Brian and Steven Clontz prove that in Baker's game,
Player II has a winning strategy if and only if the payoff set is countable.
They also asked if it is possible, in general linear orders, for Player II to
have a winning strategy on some uncountable set. To this we give a positive answer and moreover construct, for every infinite
cardinal $\kappa$, a dense linear order of size $\kappa$ on which Player II has
a winning strategy on all payoff sets. We finish with some future research
questions, further underlining the difficulty in generalizing the
characterization of Brian and Clontz to linear orders.