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Abstract
Adrian Kent has recently presented a critique [1] of our paper [2] in which he claims to refute our main result: the measurement postulates of quantum mechanics can be derived from the rest of postulates, once we assume that the set of mixed states of a finite-dimensional Hilbert space is finite-dimensional. To construct his argument, Kent considers theories resulting from supplementing quantum mechanics with hypothetical ``post-quantum'' measurement devices. We prove that each of these theories contains pure states (i.e. states of maximal knowledge) which are not rays of the Hilbert space, in contradiction with the ``pure state postulate'' of quantum mechanics. We also prove that these alternatives violate the finite-dimensionality of mixed states. Each of these two facts separately invalidates the refutation. In this note we also clarify the assumptions used in [2] and discuss the notions of pure state, physical system, and the sensitivity of the structure of the state space under modifications of the measurements or the dynamics.
Adrian Kent最近对我们的论文b[2]提出了批评b[1],其中他声称反驳了我们的主要结果:量子力学的测量公设可以从其他公设中推导出来,一旦我们假设有限维希尔伯特空间的混合状态集是有限维的。为了构建他的论点,肯特考虑了用假设的“后量子”测量设备补充量子力学所产生的理论。我们证明了这些理论中的每一个都包含不是希尔伯特空间射线的纯粹状态(即最大知识的状态),这与量子力学的“纯粹状态假设”相矛盾。我们还证明了这些替代违反混合状态的有限维性。这两个事实中的每一个都分别使反驳无效。在本文中,我们还澄清了[2]中使用的假设,并讨论了纯态、物理系统的概念,以及在测量或动力学修改下状态空间结构的灵敏度。
Masanes, Lluís, Galley, Thomas D., Müller, Markus P.
来源期刊
QuantumPhysics and Astronomy-Physics and Astronomy (miscellaneous)
CiteScore
9.20
自引率
10.90%
发文量
241
审稿时长
16 weeks
期刊介绍:
Quantum is an open-access peer-reviewed journal for quantum science and related fields. Quantum is non-profit and community-run: an effort by researchers and for researchers to make science more open and publishing more transparent and efficient.