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Thomas Philippon opened the general discussion by commenting on the benefits of competition among localities in China. He referred to the findings of Joel Mokyr (A Culture of Growth: The Origins of the Modern Economy [Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 2018]) on the link between political fragmentation and growth in Europe. Philippon recalled that, focusing on the period from 1500 to 1700, Mokyr found that political fragmentation preventedmonarchs from impeding innovation. He pointed out that political fragmentation is particularly beneficial when combined with cultural unity, free trade, and absence of war. Philippon noted that China shares these three characteristics and that competition among localities seems to foster innovation, just like political fragmentation did in Europe a few centuries ago. Frederic Mishkin spoke next. He noted that China experienced an important rural exodus. This reallocation of labor potentially increased productivity, he argued, by reassigning it from unproductive activities in the countryside to productive, capital-intensive ones in cities. Mishkin asked the authors to which extent reallocation could explain China’s growth over the past decades. The authors argued that the evidence suggests that labor reallocation played a minor role, at least over the past two decades. In particular, they pointed out that real wages grew 6% to 7% on average over an extended period of time, which does not fit the labor reallocation narrative. The authors emphasized the role of capital misallocation instead, referring to existing work of theirs. In Chong-En Bai, Chang-Tai Hsieh, and Zheng Michael Song (“The Long Shadow of China’s Fiscal Expansion,” Brookings Papers on Economic Activity 47, no. 2 [2016]: 129–81), they found that capital misallocation has increased over the past 10 years. Part of this misallocation is imputed to the response to the Great Recession, they argued. Local governments circumvented institutional constraints on borrowing by setting
Thomas Philippon在一般性讨论开始时评论了中国地方间竞争的好处。他提到了Joel Mokyr(《增长的文化:现代经济的起源》[新泽西州普林斯顿:普林斯顿大学出版社,2018年])关于欧洲政治分裂与增长之间联系的研究结果。Philippon回忆道,聚焦于1500年至1700年这段时间,Mokyr发现政治分裂阻止了Monachs阻碍创新。他指出,政治分裂与文化团结、自由贸易和没有战争相结合尤其有益。Philippon指出,中国有这三个特点,地方之间的竞争似乎促进了创新,就像几个世纪前欧洲的政治分裂一样。弗雷德里克·米什金接着发言。他指出,中国经历了一次重要的农村人口外流。他认为,这种劳动力的重新分配可能会提高生产力,将其从农村的非生产性活动重新分配到城市的生产性、资本密集型活动。米什金询问作者,再分配在多大程度上可以解释中国过去几十年的增长。作者认为,证据表明,劳动力再分配至少在过去二十年中发挥了次要作用。他们特别指出,在很长一段时间内,实际工资平均增长6%至7%,这不符合劳动力再分配的说法。相反,作者强调了资本错配的作用,并参考了他们现有的工作。在Chong En Bai、Chang Tai Hsieh和Zheng Michael Song(“中国财政扩张的长期阴影”,Brookings Papers on Economic Activity 47,no.2[2016]129-81)中,他们发现资本错配在过去10年中有所增加。他们认为,这种分配不当的部分原因是对大衰退的反应。地方政府通过设定
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The Nber Macroeconomics Annual provides a forum for important debates in contemporary macroeconomics and major developments in the theory of macroeconomic analysis and policy that include leading economists from a variety of fields.