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摘要
修昔底德所著的所谓《西西里考古学》记述了公元前415-413年雅典人对西西里的远征,其中并没有包含对这一记述不可或缺的信息。相反,它是一个标志着故事发生决定性转折的信号。它不是来自安提奥科斯的Σικελικά或Hellanikos的Ἱ ρα ιαι τ τ ςἭρας α ο νἌργει或其他来源的关于西西里岛遥远过去的零散信息的收集。它也不是一个详尽的、自给自足的论述。修昔底德想要通过这篇写得很出色的短文来展示他对古代历史的特定事实获得精确知识的能力:关于古物研究领域的文学作品γώνισμα。而暗中依靠HellanikosἹέρειαι约会的主要西西里ktiseis,他试图建立一个更精确的年代学至少几ktiseis,给细节νόμιμα至少一些西西里世纪。在修昔底德著作的其他一些地方,也可以看到他对古物研究的类似兴趣,例如,在他对古雅典地形的素描中,在他对古代在提洛斯举行的节日的重建中,或者在他对斯巴达政治开端的评论中。他对最后一个话题的处理特别重要:他的立场与希罗多德和赫拉尼科斯的立场都不同,但没有提及两者的区别。
Thucydide sur les ktiseis en sicile et sur d’autres antiquités
Thucydides’ so-called « Sicilian archaiologia », which opens his account of the Athe- nian expedition to Sicily of 415–413 BC, does not contain information indispensable for that account. It rather serves as a signal marking a decisive turn of the story. It is not a loose collection of pieces of information on the remote past of Sicily, derived from Antiochos’ Σικελικά or from Hellanikos’ Ἱέρειαι τῆς Ἥρας αἱ ἐν Ἄργει or from other sources. Neither is it an exhaustive, self-sufficient discourse. It is a brilliantly written sketch by which Thucydides wanted to show his ability of getting precise knowledge about particular facts of the ancient past: a literary ἀγώνισμα on the field of antiquarian research. While tacitly relying on Hellanikos’ Ἱέρειαι for the dating of the main Sicilian ktiseis, he tried to establish a more precise chronology at least for a few ktiseis and to give details on the νόμιμα of at least some Sicilian poleis. A similar interest in antiquarian research can be observed in some other places of Thucydides’ work, for instance in his sketch of the topography of old Athens, in his reconstruction of the festival that used to be celebrated at Delos in remote times, or in his remarks on the beginnings of Sparta’s politeia. His treatment of the last topic is particularly significant: he takes a stand that is different both from the stand of Herodotus and from that of Hellanikos, without mentioning the differences.