对Kämmerer等人(2023)关于RT-PCR检测的评论的回应

U. Kämmerer, S. Pekova, R. Klement, Rogier Louwen, Peter Borger, Klaus Steger
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Franchi和Tomsic(2023)正确地指出,我们的综述(Kämmerer等人,2023)“明确关注RT-PCR的技术方面,这只是COVID-19难题的一部分”,他们要求进行更全面的讨论,而不仅仅是我们对实验室分析的关注。他们指出,缺乏对COVID-19疾病的具体定义,并得出结论,为了检验Koch的第一项和第二项假设,必须同时存在纯化的细菌和特定的疾病,而这两者都不适用于COVID-19。作为答复,我们提出了他们没有提出的两个问题:RT-PCR是否证实了SARS-CoV-2诱导的临床症状?2. 科赫的假设对病毒有效吗?我们认为,对无症状的人进行检测是无用的,而对有临床症状的呼吸系统疾病患者进行检测,可能使医生能够确认或拒绝疑似诊断。对任何给定的病人作出诊断是医生的挑战,而研究人员有责任表明可用的工具尽可能接近最佳,并澄清任何此类工具的局限性。由于没有适合全面和专门检测传染性病原体的工具,我们需要谨慎地应用现有的有限工具来追踪和跟踪病毒性病原体,以避免低估或高估真正的或疑似的大流行。
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Response to Comments on Kämmerer, et al. (2023) regarding RT-PCR Testing
Franchi and Tomsic (2023) correctly note that our review (Kämmerer et al., 2023) “has a clear focus on the technical aspect of RT-PCR, which is only one piece of the COVID-19 puzzle” and they ask for a more comprehensive discussion beyond our focus on the laboratory assay. They point to the lack of a specific definition of COVID-19 disease and conclude that, in order to test the first and the second of Koch’s postulates, there must be both a purified germ and a specified disease, neither of which was available for COVID-19. In reply, we address two questions they did not ask: 1. Are clinical symptoms induced by SARS-CoV-2 corroborated by RT-PCR? 2. Are Koch’s postulates valid for viruses? We assert that testing asymptomatic people is useless, whereas testing patients with clinical symptoms for a respiratory disease may enable a physician to confirm or reject a suspected diagnosis. Determining a diagnosis for any given patient is the physician’s challenge, while the researcher is responsible to show that the available tools are as near optimal as possible and to clarify the limitations of any such tools. Because there are no tools suitable for comprehensive and exclusive detection of infectious pathogens, we need to proceed carefully in applying the limited tools that do exist for tracing and tracking viral pathogens, to avoid under- or over-estimating a real or suspected pandemic.
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