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We use forcing over admissible sets to show that, for every ordinal $\alpha$
in a club $C\subset\omega_1$, there are copies of $\alpha$ such that the
isomorphism between them is not computable in the join of the complete
$\Pi^1_1$ set relative to each copy separately. Assuming $\mathsf{V=L}$, this
is close to optimal; on the other hand, assuming large cardinals the same (and
more) holds for every projective functional.