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Analog-Based Forecasting of Turbulent Velocity: Relationship between Predictability and Intermittency
This study evaluates the performance of analog-based methodologies to predict
the longitudinal velocity in a turbulent flow. The data used comes from hot
wire experimental measurements from the Modane wind tunnel. We compared
different methods and explored the impact of varying the number of analogs and
their sizes on prediction accuracy. We illustrate that the innovation, defined
as the difference between the true velocity value and the prediction value,
highlights particularly unpredictable events that we directly link with extreme
events of the velocity gradients and so to intermittency. This result indicates
that while the estimator effectively seizes linear correlations, it fails to
fully capture higher-order dependencies. The innovation underscores the
presence of intermittency, revealing the limitations of current predictive
models and suggesting directions for future improvements in turbulence
forecasting.