来自通讯办公室的消息:采访ASLO的第一位网络编辑保罗·肯普

Limnology and Oceanography Bulletin Pub Date : 2025-02-17 Epub Date: 2025-02-03 DOI:10.1002/lob.10689
Brittany M. Schieler
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Both migrations were transformational in vastly increasing the services that could be provided.</p><p>The present “website” is a web-enabled system of about 10 interconnected platforms. Anyone who has published in or read an ASLO journal, or attended an ASLO conference, has probably interacted with most of them—sometimes without noticing!</p><p>\n <b>CO: WHAT HAVE YOU FOUND TO BE THE MOST ENJOYABLE ASPECT(S) OF RUNNING THE ASLO WEBSITE? WHAT HAS BEEN THE MOST CHALLENGING?</b></p><p>\n <i>PK</i>: The most enjoyable and most challenging aspects are often the same. I have particularly enjoyed those times when the ASLO leadership or a committee poses a question that starts with “Would it be possible to …?” Those open-ended questions often lead to an exploration of what is possible, a how-to learning phase, and eventually, creating a new capability that allows ASLO to expand what it can offer and deliver. 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自1936年作为美国湖沼学会成立以来,该学会经历了多次转型,包括1948年美国湖沼学会与太平洋海洋学会合并,成立美国湖沼学与海洋学学会,以及2011年ASLO更名为湖沼学与海洋学科学协会,以反映其日益增长的国际会员。毫无疑问,ASLO不断转型的一个主要领域是其网站www.aslo.org。如今,网站对一个组织的运作是如此重要,以至于它们很容易被视为最终用户。然而,当我在ASLO开始我的职业生涯时,我学到的第一件事就是我们的网络平台的内部工作是多么复杂,以及设计和维护功能强大、可访问和相关的网站的挑战。我还了解到ASLO是网站的“早期采用者”。该网站成立于1994年,当时是由美国国家海洋和大气管理局托管的几个静态页面。到1996年,当www.aslo.org首次向公众开放时,总共只有257,600个网站在线(相比之下,今天超过10亿个)。2024年8月,www.also.org迎来了另一个转变。ASLO的第一位网络编辑保罗·肯普(Paul Kemp)在工作了近30年后辞去了该职位。(保罗告诉我,1994年,在执行董事苏·韦勒(Sue Weiler)向会员提出“有人知道如何创建网站吗?”这个问题之后,他和当时还是学生的艾伦·舒斯曼(Alan Schussman)开始了网站的工作。)Paul同意坐下来接受采访,与我聊了聊www.aslo.org的历史和发展,并分享了他对ASLO运营这一重要组成部分的看法。谢谢你花时间讨论also。org。除了网络编辑之外,您还担任过湖沼学和海洋学的创始主编(eic):方法(读者可以看到他对特蕾莎·库托的采访,也是执行董事,关于他在curto 2024中的eic角色),并在布鲁克海文国家实验室,石溪大学,国家科学基金会,夏威夷大学担任c-more科学技术中心副主任,科罗拉多大学博尔德分校担任频闪器科学技术中心总经理。你是如何开始创建和维护aslo网站的?在那个时候,哪些功能对网站来说是重要的?PK:我自愿为ASLO的第一个网站工作,因为当时很少有人知道该怎么做。我继续做了3年的志愿者,到那时,网站已经发展得如此之快,以至于需要花费大量的时间来维护。我提议ASLO应该提供适度的补偿,ASLO同意了,我继续在网站上工作,直到今年辞职。正如往常一样,ASLO是网站服务的早期采用者。当网站还是一种新现象的时候,它开始了自己的网站,通常用来提供一个组织的基本信息。许多我们现在认为理所当然的网站功能当时还不存在。ASLO很早就建立并采用了一些网站的基本准则和原则,如组织良好的信息、直观的导航菜单、搜索能力、可靠性和可配置的布局。如果你看一下早期网站的截图,它看起来非常原始,但运行得非常好(图1)。Co:为了满足不断变化的需求,aslo网站在过去几年里经历了几次变化,无论是对访问者来说明显的视觉变化,还是本质上更具结构性的变化。自网站创建以来,有哪些主要的变化?PK:虽然一些主要的重新设计是为了美观,但很多都与添加功能有关。例如,增加登录和被认可的功能,ASLO可以在线订阅《湖沼学与海洋学》和《海洋公报》(2000年),举办在线选举(2001年),成为首批采用绿色开放获取出版物的学会之一(2002年),支持整个网站的订阅和单篇文章的“按次付费”访问(2002年),发起一个非常受欢迎的工作板(2003年),出版电子书(2010年),并在商业视频会议服务普及之前的2010年召开在线董事会会议。2014年,ASLO委托对其业务进行了深入审查,并得出结论认为,出版和会议行业的变化,以及会员所需服务的大幅增加,需要对其业务进行全面改革。这导致了网站的两次迁移,从一个独立的服务器到专门的网络平台。第一次迁移于2017年完成,第二次迁移于2019年完成。这两次迁移都是变革性的,大大增加了可以提供的服务。 目前的“网站”是一个由大约10个相互连接的平台组成的网络系统。任何在ASLO期刊上发表或阅读过ASLO期刊的人,或者参加过ASLO会议的人,都可能与他们中的大多数人有过互动——有时甚至没有注意到!主持人:你觉得经营aslo网站最有趣的地方是什么?最具挑战性的是什么?PK:最有趣和最具挑战性的方面往往是相同的。我特别喜欢ASLO领导或委员会以“有可能……吗?”这些开放式的问题通常会导致探索什么是可能的,一个如何学习的阶段,并最终创建一个新的能力,允许ASLO扩展它可以提供和交付的内容。我发现探索和学习的过程非常愉快。我也非常喜欢ASLO董事会、业务服务和委员会的团队文化。我很高兴与之共事的大多数人都很支持、合作、负责、乐于助人、尊重他人。这样的工作环境会让事情发生。有效的科学传播比以往任何时候都更加重要。网站在水产科学传播生态系统中扮演着怎样的角色?您认为我们所有的数字平台在未来会面临怎样的挑战?PK:网站是众多媒体平台之一,它们的受众和内容是重叠的,但信息的传递方式却有很大不同。算法平台(也就是社交媒体)以一种故意带有偏见的方式传递信息,这种方式往往会强化浏览者现有的偏见,而网站(ASLO.org!)可以故意不带偏见。在一个已经习惯了——我想说已经习惯了——信息娱乐的社会里,观众更有可能遇到算法平台,而不是公正的信息源。一个“只”提供真实信息的网站在建立和留住受众方面处于不利地位。此外,在一个经历了错误和虚假信息爆炸的信息环境中,我想知道ASLO是否会发现自己需要更努力、更积极地宣传事实而不是虚构,同时更努力地工作,让自己更有趣!CO:非常感谢您的真知灼见!
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Message From the Communications Office: Interview With ASLO's First Web Editor, Paul Kemp

Since ASLO began as the Limnological Society of America in 1936, the society has undergone numerous transformations, including in 1948 when Limnological Society of America merged with the Oceanographic Society of the Pacific to form the American Society of Limnology and Oceanography, and in 2011 when ASLO's named changed to the Association for the Sciences of Limnology and Oceanography to reflect its growing international membership. Undoubtedly, one major area of constant transformation for ASLO has been its website, www.aslo.org. Websites are so critical to an organization's operations these days that they are easily taken for granted as an end user. However, one of the first things I learned when I started my career at ASLO is just how complex the inner workings of our web platforms are, and the challenges of designing and maintaining functional, accessible, and relevant websites. I also learned that ASLO was an “early adopter” of websites. The website began in 1994 as a few static pages hosted by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. By 1996, when www.aslo.org was first accessible to the public, there were only ~257,600 total websites online (compare that to over 1 billion today).

August of 2024 marked another transformation for www.also.org. ASLO's first Web Editor, Paul Kemp, stepped down from the position after nearly 30 years. (Paul told me that the work on the website began in 1994 by himself and then-student Alan Schussman, after the Executive Director Sue Weiler posed to the membership the question, to paraphrase, “Does anyone know how to create a website?”) Paul agreed to sit down for an interview to chat with me about the history and evolution of www.aslo.org, and share his perspectives on this important piece of ASLO's operations.

CO: THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DISCUSS also.org. IN ADDITION TO ASLO WEB EDITOR, YOU HAVE SERVED AS THE FOUNDING EDITOR-IN-CHIEF (EIC) OF LIMNOLOGY AND OCEANOGRAPHY: METHODS (READERS CAN CATCH HIS INTERVIEW WITH TERESA CURTO, ASLO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ABOUT HIS EIC ROLE IN CURTO 2024) AND HELD FACULTY AND PROFESSIONAL POSITIONS AT BROOKHAVEN NATIONAL LABORATORY, STONY BROOK UNIVERSITY, NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION, UNIVERSITY OF HAWAI'I AS ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF THE C-MORE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY CENTER, AND THE UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO—BOULDER AS MANAGING DIRECTOR OF THE STROBE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY CENTER.

HOW DID YOU GET STARTED WITH CREATING AND MAINTAINING ASLO'S WEB PRESENCE? WHAT FUNCTIONALITIES WERE IMPORTANT FOR THE WEBSITE TO HAVE AT THAT TIME?

PK: I volunteered to work on ASLO's first website because, at the time, few people knew how. I continued as a volunteer for 3 years, by which time the website had grown so much that it was taking significant time to maintain. I proposed that ASLO ought to offer modest compensation, ASLO agreed, and I continued to work on the website until stepping down this year.

As it often is, ASLO was an early adopter of website services. It started its website at a time when websites were a new phenomenon, generally used to provide basic information about an organization. Many of the website functions we now take for granted did not exist yet. Some basic guidelines and principles for websites were established early and adopted by ASLO, such as well-organized information, intuitive navigation menus, search capability, reliability, and a configurable layout. If you look at a screenshot of the early website, it looks very primitive—but it worked very well (Fig. 1).

CO: THE ASLO WEBSITE HAS GONE THROUGH SEVERAL CHANGES OVER THE YEARS TO ADDRESS EVOLVING NEEDS, WHETHER THOSE ARE VISUAL CHANGES APPARENT TO THE VISITOR OR MORE STRUCTURAL IN NATURE. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MAJOR WAYS THE WEBSITE HAS CHANGED SINCE IT WAS FIRST CREATED?

PK: Although some of the major redesigns were cosmetic, many were associated with adding functions. For example, adding an ability to log in and be recognized allowed ASLO to institute online subscriptions to Limnology and Oceanography and the L&O Bulletin (2000), hold online elections (2001), be one of the first societies to adopt green open access publication (2002), support site-wide subscriptions and single-article “pay per view” access (2002), initiate a very popular job board (2003), publish e-Books (2010), and conduct online Board Meetings (2010) years before business videoconferencing services became popular.

In 2014, ASLO commissioned an intensive review of its operations and concluded that changes in the publishing and conference industries, as well as greatly increased services desired by members, would require an overhaul of its operations. That led to two migrations of the website, from a standalone server to specialized web-enabled platforms. The first migration was completed in 2017 and the second in 2019. Both migrations were transformational in vastly increasing the services that could be provided.

The present “website” is a web-enabled system of about 10 interconnected platforms. Anyone who has published in or read an ASLO journal, or attended an ASLO conference, has probably interacted with most of them—sometimes without noticing!

CO: WHAT HAVE YOU FOUND TO BE THE MOST ENJOYABLE ASPECT(S) OF RUNNING THE ASLO WEBSITE? WHAT HAS BEEN THE MOST CHALLENGING?

PK: The most enjoyable and most challenging aspects are often the same. I have particularly enjoyed those times when the ASLO leadership or a committee poses a question that starts with “Would it be possible to …?” Those open-ended questions often lead to an exploration of what is possible, a how-to learning phase, and eventually, creating a new capability that allows ASLO to expand what it can offer and deliver. I find the exploration and learning process very enjoyable.

I have also greatly enjoyed the team-based culture of ASLO's Board, business services, and committees. Most of the individuals that I have had the pleasure to work with are supportive, cooperative, responsible, helpful, and respectful. That working environment makes things happen.

CO: EFFECTIVE SCIENCE COMMUNICATION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER. WHAT ROLE DOES THE WEBSITE PLAY IN THE AQUATIC SCIENCE COMMUNICATION ECOSYSTEM, AND WHAT CHALLENGES DO YOU THINK ALL OF OUR DIGITAL PLATFORMS FACE GOING IN THE FUTURE?

PK: A website is one of many media platforms that overlap in their audiences and content but differ greatly in how information is delivered. Algorithmic platforms (aka social media) deliver information in an intentionally biased manner that often reinforces the existing biases of the viewer, whereas websites (ASLO.org!) can be intentionally unbiased. In a society that has become accustomed to—I would say conditioned to—infotainment, viewers are more likely to encounter algorithmic platforms than unbiased information sources. A website that “only” delivers factual information is at a disadvantage in building and retaining its audience. Further, in an informational environment experiencing an explosion of mis- and dis-information, I wonder whether ASLO might find itself needing to work harder and more proactively to promote fact over fiction, and at the same time work harder to be more entertaining!

CO: Thank you so much for your insights!

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Limnology and Oceanography Bulletin
Limnology and Oceanography Bulletin Environmental Science-Water Science and Technology
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期刊介绍: All past issues of the Limnology and Oceanography Bulletin are available online, including its predecessors Communications to Members and the ASLO Bulletin. Access to the current and previous volume is restricted to members and institutions with a subscription to the ASLO journals. All other issues are freely accessible without a subscription. As part of ASLO’s mission to disseminate and communicate knowledge in the aquatic sciences.
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