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Q4 Materials Science Plastics Engineering Pub Date : 2021-06-01 DOI:10.1002/peng.20518
P. Toensmeier
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在他们最近的文章[2]中,Sporrong和Styf记录了正常人棘上肌内压(IMP)和肌电图(EMG)信号作为同心和偏心等速肩外展的扭矩函数。他们得出结论,同心肌激活的IMP、EMG和扭矩呈正相关,而偏心肌激活的则呈负相关(图I,[2])。作者解释说,同心模式和偏心模式之间的反应差异可能是由于“偏心激活过程中影响冈上肌解剖结构的特定条件”。此外,他们还表示,“我们认为,在偏心和同心的肌肉活动中,激动性肌肉有不同的共同激活模式”。然而,他们没有评论这样一个事实,即他们的结果与之前使用类似技术测量IMP、EMG信号和扭矩的工作有很大不同[11。相反,Aratow等人[1]注意到,扭矩、EMG信号和IMP对于同心肌激活和偏心肌激活显示出相似的关系,图3(A)和图3(B)几乎是彼此的镜像,只是注意到偏心模式的IMP和扭矩略高。我严重怀疑冈上肌与比目鱼肌的不同之处,即前者的偏心激活会导致EMG和IMP之间的负关系,而后者的偏心激活则会导致EMG和IMP间的正关系。如果这些关系是真的,这对于IMP记录作为肌肉力量的可靠指标的未来来说不是好兆头。然而,对于棘上肌偏心激活的EMG、扭矩和IMP之间的分离,我确实有一个可能的解释[2]。我认为IMP数据采集过程中可能出现了“x轴”错误。作者[2]使用等速计算机测力计(KinCom;查塔努加公司,查塔努瓦,田纳西州,美国)。这种类型的测力计记录肩部扭矩和肌电图数据作为肩部外展角的函数。对于同心肌激活,当手臂从0“到120”时,追踪从左到右记录数据。对于偏心肌肉激活,当手臂抵抗从120“到0”的内收时,追踪记录从右到lqft的数据。相比之下,单独的多通道墨水记录器(Mingograft 82;西门子Elema,瑞典斯德哥尔摩)仅从左到右记录IMP。因此,如果要将从右到左记录的偏心扭矩和EMG轨迹与从左到右记录的IMP轨迹集成在一起,则需要将扭矩和EMG轨迹翻转180”并从纸张背面读取!因此,我问斯波荣和施蒂夫,他们是否记得这样做,或者他们是否犯了一个无辜的错误,但在其他方面发表了一篇优秀而及时的文章?如果后者是真的,我将对他们的进一步评论和讨论非常感兴趣。尽管精确的比较需要重新计算每个单独的IMP/扭矩数据点,但请注意,如果我们将偏心IMPItorque与肩部外展曲线180”左右翻转,我们可以看到它基本上平行于同心曲线(图I,[2])。因此,如果存在简单的x轴误差并进行了校正,我们将得出结论,IMP、EMG信号和扭矩在肌肉和收缩模式之间表现出一致的关系[1,2]。
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In their recent article [2], Sporrong and Styf recorded supraspinatus intramuscular pressure (IMP) and electromyographic (EMG) signal as functions of torque for concentric and eccentric isokinetic shoulder abduction in normal individuals. They concluded that there was a positive relationship for IMP, EMG, and torque for concentric muscle activation, but a negative relationship for eccentric muscle activation (Fig. I , [2]). The authors explained that the difference in responses between concentric and eccentric modes may have been due to “specific conditions affecting the anatomy of the supraspinatus muscle during eccentric activation”. In addition they stated, “we believe that agonistic muscles have different patterns of coactivation during eccentric and concentric muscle activity”. They did not comment, however, on the fact that their results differed substantially from previous work using similar techniques to measure IMP, EMG signal and torque [ 11. In contrast, Aratow et al. [l] noted that torque, EMG signal, and IMP showed similar relationships for concentric muscle activation and for eccentric muscle activation figures 3(A) and 3(B) are almost mirror images of each other-except that slightly higher IMP and torque was noted for the eccentric mode. I seriously doubt that the supraspinatus muscle is that different from the soleus muscle such that eccentric activation in the former would result in a negative relationship between EMG and IMP, while eccentric activation in the latter would result in a positive relationship between EMG and IMP. If these relationships were true, it would not bode well for the future of IMP recording as a reliable index of muscle force. However, I do have a possible explanation for the dissociation noted between EMG, torque, and IMP for eccentric activation of the supraspinatus muscle [2]. I believe an “x-axis” error may have been present during the collection of IMP data. The authors [2] used an isokinetic computerized ergometer (KinCom; Chattanooga Corporation, Chattanooga, TN, USA). This type of ergometer records shoulder torque and EMG data as functions of shoulder abduction angle. For concentric muscle activation, a tracing records data from left to right as the arm is abducted from 0” to 120”. For eccentric muscle activation, the tracing records data from right to lqft as the arm resists adduction from 120” to 0”. In contrast, a separate multi-channel ink recorder (Mingograft 82; Siemens Elema, Stockholm, Sweden), recorded IMP from left to right only. Thus if eccentric torque and EMG tracings recorded from right to left are to be integrated with IMP tracings recorded from left to right, then the torque and EMG tracings would need to be flipped 180” and read through the back side of the paper! Thus I ask Sporrong and Styf whether they remembered to do this, or whether they made an innocent mistake, but otherwise published and excellent and timely article? If the latter were true, I would be very interested in their further comments and discussion. Although an exact comparison would require that each individual IMP/torque data point be recalculated, note that if we flip the eccentric IMPItorque versus shoulder abduction curve 180” side-to-side, we see that it lies essentially parallel to the concentric curve (Fig. I , [2]). Thus if a simple x-axis error had been present and the correction were made, it would lead us to conclude that IMP, EMG signal, and torque demonstrate consistent relationships across muscles and contraction modes [ 1,2].
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