{"title":"在回答:关于小麦软骨有什么新发现?","authors":"R. Koca, Z. Fazlıoğulları","doi":"10.2399/ANA.20.0000LE","DOIUrl":null,"url":null,"abstract":"We would like to thank Dr. Vatansever for his interest in our paper and for spending time to express his contributions. His valuable comments provided us significant insight regarding the content and the analysis of our study. We would like to kindly provide further details regarding the newly observed shapes of triticeal cartilages taking the calcification pattern into account. The study on triticeal cartilage primarily aims to prevent confusion with atheroma plaques, which may occur in the common carotid artery. The atheroma plaques are important to recognize since they have a potential risk of causing stroke and can easily be mixed with calcified triticeal cartilage during the evaluation of radiological images since they both have similar anatomical location. Triticeal cartilage measurements of Koca et al. were made on computed tomography images. The measurements made by Alqahtani et al. and Vatansever et al. were examined on computed tomography angiography and triticeal cartilage was classified according to its shape in a similar pattern. Joshi et al. studied the triticeal cartilage on cadavers and classified the cartilage according to its shape as oval, circular, pyramidal, spindle and cylindrical. However, as shown in the tables and figures of the study by Koca et al., different types of triticeal cartilage were reported as hook, double circle and ring, which were not previously identified. These cartilages were named according to the shapes in which they were observed. “Ring-shaped triticeal cartilage” was observed in 12 (7.19%) out of 167 males, while it was not detected in 65 females (p=0.02). In the post hoc G-power analysis performed to determine the strength of this difference, the statistical power was calculated as 98.8%. Ring-shaped cartilage with a cavity may be due to the calcification which started from the outside of the cartilage while the middle was not yet calcified. On the other hand, “double circleshaped triticeal cartilage” was viewed as if the two cartilages were placed on top of one another, although it was actually single. Furthermore, in “hook-shaped triticeal cartilage”, the calcification of the cartilages might have started unilaterally from the right or left side as a thin, incomplete round shape like a crescent. To sum up, triticeal cartilage variations were investigated more comprehensively and new shapes of cartilages were added to the already known types by Koca et al. We suggest that histological studies in large series of cadavers will be more effective to identify new types and make comment on calcification status of triticeal cartilage.","PeriodicalId":91999,"journal":{"name":"Anatomy","volume":null,"pages":null},"PeriodicalIF":0.0000,"publicationDate":"2020-12-01","publicationTypes":"Journal Article","fieldsOfStudy":null,"isOpenAccess":false,"openAccessPdf":"","citationCount":"0","resultStr":"{\"title\":\"In reply to: what is new about triticeal cartilage?\",\"authors\":\"R. Koca, Z. Fazlıoğulları\",\"doi\":\"10.2399/ANA.20.0000LE\",\"DOIUrl\":null,\"url\":null,\"abstract\":\"We would like to thank Dr. Vatansever for his interest in our paper and for spending time to express his contributions. His valuable comments provided us significant insight regarding the content and the analysis of our study. We would like to kindly provide further details regarding the newly observed shapes of triticeal cartilages taking the calcification pattern into account. The study on triticeal cartilage primarily aims to prevent confusion with atheroma plaques, which may occur in the common carotid artery. The atheroma plaques are important to recognize since they have a potential risk of causing stroke and can easily be mixed with calcified triticeal cartilage during the evaluation of radiological images since they both have similar anatomical location. Triticeal cartilage measurements of Koca et al. were made on computed tomography images. The measurements made by Alqahtani et al. and Vatansever et al. were examined on computed tomography angiography and triticeal cartilage was classified according to its shape in a similar pattern. Joshi et al. studied the triticeal cartilage on cadavers and classified the cartilage according to its shape as oval, circular, pyramidal, spindle and cylindrical. However, as shown in the tables and figures of the study by Koca et al., different types of triticeal cartilage were reported as hook, double circle and ring, which were not previously identified. These cartilages were named according to the shapes in which they were observed. “Ring-shaped triticeal cartilage” was observed in 12 (7.19%) out of 167 males, while it was not detected in 65 females (p=0.02). In the post hoc G-power analysis performed to determine the strength of this difference, the statistical power was calculated as 98.8%. Ring-shaped cartilage with a cavity may be due to the calcification which started from the outside of the cartilage while the middle was not yet calcified. On the other hand, “double circleshaped triticeal cartilage” was viewed as if the two cartilages were placed on top of one another, although it was actually single. 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In reply to: what is new about triticeal cartilage?
We would like to thank Dr. Vatansever for his interest in our paper and for spending time to express his contributions. His valuable comments provided us significant insight regarding the content and the analysis of our study. We would like to kindly provide further details regarding the newly observed shapes of triticeal cartilages taking the calcification pattern into account. The study on triticeal cartilage primarily aims to prevent confusion with atheroma plaques, which may occur in the common carotid artery. The atheroma plaques are important to recognize since they have a potential risk of causing stroke and can easily be mixed with calcified triticeal cartilage during the evaluation of radiological images since they both have similar anatomical location. Triticeal cartilage measurements of Koca et al. were made on computed tomography images. The measurements made by Alqahtani et al. and Vatansever et al. were examined on computed tomography angiography and triticeal cartilage was classified according to its shape in a similar pattern. Joshi et al. studied the triticeal cartilage on cadavers and classified the cartilage according to its shape as oval, circular, pyramidal, spindle and cylindrical. However, as shown in the tables and figures of the study by Koca et al., different types of triticeal cartilage were reported as hook, double circle and ring, which were not previously identified. These cartilages were named according to the shapes in which they were observed. “Ring-shaped triticeal cartilage” was observed in 12 (7.19%) out of 167 males, while it was not detected in 65 females (p=0.02). In the post hoc G-power analysis performed to determine the strength of this difference, the statistical power was calculated as 98.8%. Ring-shaped cartilage with a cavity may be due to the calcification which started from the outside of the cartilage while the middle was not yet calcified. On the other hand, “double circleshaped triticeal cartilage” was viewed as if the two cartilages were placed on top of one another, although it was actually single. Furthermore, in “hook-shaped triticeal cartilage”, the calcification of the cartilages might have started unilaterally from the right or left side as a thin, incomplete round shape like a crescent. To sum up, triticeal cartilage variations were investigated more comprehensively and new shapes of cartilages were added to the already known types by Koca et al. We suggest that histological studies in large series of cadavers will be more effective to identify new types and make comment on calcification status of triticeal cartilage.