How to Look Natural in Photos: An interview with Beata Bartecka and Łukasz Rusznica

D. Crowley
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In this interview with the authors of How to Look Natural In Photos, a 2021 photobook featuring images from archives containing secret police records from Poland before 1989, Beata Bartecka and Łukasz Rusznica outline their approach to the republication of this material. They reflect on the nature of images which represent violence or trauma alongside the seemingly banal photographs of mundane scenes and objects recorded by the security forces, as well as the ethics of reproducing portraits of secret police officers. The material on which the book is based is in the possession of Instytut Pamięci Narodowej (The Institute of National Remembrance), an organization created in 1998 by act of the Polish parliament that has been subject of heated debate in the country. Critics have accused it of producing an overly simple view of modern Polish history, one populated by heroes, victims and villains. Bartecka and Rusznica reflect on their relations with this institution and the potential for open interpretations of such material.
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如何在照片中看起来自然:采访Beata Bartecka和Łukasz Rusznica
在对《如何在照片中看起来自然》一书作者的采访中,Beata Bartecka和Łukasz Rusznica概述了他们对这些材料的再版方法。《如何在照片中看起来自然》是一本2021年出版的照片集,其中包含1989年之前波兰秘密警察记录的档案中的图像。它们反映了代表暴力或创伤的图像的本质,以及安全部队记录的平凡场景和物体的看似平庸的照片,以及复制秘密警察肖像的道德。这本书所依据的资料由波兰国家纪念研究所(institut Pamięci Narodowej)所有,该机构是根据波兰议会法案于1998年成立的,在波兰国内一直是激烈争论的对象。批评人士指责该书对波兰现代史的看法过于简单,充斥着英雄、受害者和恶棍。Bartecka和Rusznica反思了他们与这个机构的关系,以及对这些材料进行公开解释的潜力。
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