Bits of Conversation

A. Kluge
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This chapter looks at an interview between Alexander Kluge and Enno Patalas and his wife, Frieda Grafe, which was published in the film journal Filmkritik shortly after Kluge received the Special Jury Prize at the 1966 Venice Film Festival. This interview provides insights into the making of Kluge's first feature, Yesterday Girl (1966). The child of Jewish parents, the main character Anita became acquainted with persecution during the Third Reich. It is a pervasive belief that a child who was eight years old in 1945 was not directly affected, but rather was only threatened and could therefore not actually be seriously defined by it. Kluge claims that this is obviously not true. When he thinks about his own childhood, he may not have understood what was happening exactly, but he registered the power relations very clearly; he understood quite accurately the hierarchy, which was quite different from today's. Kluge then explains that Anita and her story are specific to the Federal Republic. Her story would be a different one if she lived in a different society. And it would also be a different one if Germany had a different history.
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这一章看的是亚历山大·克鲁格和埃诺·帕塔拉斯以及他的妻子弗里达·格拉夫之间的一段采访,这段采访在克鲁格获得1966年威尼斯电影节评审团特别奖后不久发表在电影杂志《Filmkritik》上。这次采访提供了克鲁格第一部故事片《昨天的女孩》(1966)的制作过程。作为犹太人的孩子,主人公安妮塔在第三帝国时期经历了迫害。人们普遍认为,一个1945年8岁的孩子没有受到直接影响,而只是受到威胁,因此实际上不能被严重地定义为它。克鲁格声称这显然不是真的。当他回想起自己的童年时,他可能并不完全明白发生了什么,但他清楚地记录了权力关系;他对等级制度的理解非常准确,这与今天的等级制度大不相同。克鲁格接着解释说,安妮塔和她的故事是联邦共和国特有的。如果她生活在另一个社会,她的故事就会不同。如果德国有不同的历史,它也会是不同的。
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