Reply to: Letter to Editor by Saravanan Sampoornam et al.

Shukoofeh Torabi, Faezeh Shekari, Mustapha Najimi, Massoud Vosough
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Abstract

We appreciate the comments raised in the letter to the editor [1] which contribute to a deeper understanding of extracellular vesicle characterisation and mechanisms of action. We strongly believe that enhanced transparency is crucial for the reproducibility of our findings and for advancing research in this field [2].

In our study, the conditioned medium of WJ-MSCs was collected and then concentrated 10 times using a tangential flow filtration system and centrifuged at a low speed (3000 × g for 10 min at 4°C) to remove cellular debris from the concentrated medium. This partially clarified medium was then subjected to centrifugal forces in the range of 20,000–110,000 × g to isolate two subpopulations: EV20K and EV110K [3]. Regarding EV characterisation, we believe that the most authoritative references for validation parameters are MISEV2018 and MISEV2023 guidelines [4]. Accordingly, we adhere to these guidelines to ensure robust and reproducible results. These guidelines recommend that one or a combination of the following methods can be used to quantify EVs (particle number, protein and/or lipid content) as well as to directly measure their size [nanoparticle tracking analysis (NTA) and dynamic light scattering (DLS)] [4]. Each particle size analysis method has some advantages and drawbacks. For instance, even though NTA enables EV characterisation by both size and concentration, several factors can affect NTA results, including lipoprotein contamination, the number of freeze/thaw cycles, sample filtration, video length and particle density per frame [5]. Since DLS is more user-friendly and provides results more quickly than other methods [6], EV size distribution was determined using DLS, whereas EV concentration was estimated using total protein quantification.

For labelling EVs, several dyes with unique characteristics can be used, including PKH, DiD and calceins. PKH and DiD are lipophilic dyes that exhibit a strong fluorescent signal when incorporated into EV membranes. Despite the excellent stability of both dyes for long-term tracking, some challenges are associated with these dye-binding assays. These challenges include lipoprotein contamination in EV samples, binding non-specifically to all cell membrane fragments and non-intact EVs, dissociation from EVs into blood and serum components and false positive signals due to self-aggregation and the formation of micelles by dyes that have the same size and morphology similar to EVs [7, 8]. To overcome these challenges, the cellular uptake and integrity of EVs have been evaluated using membrane-impermeable fluorescent dyes like calceins. These fluorescent dyes can only identify metabolically active and intact vesicles since they require intracellular esterases to release calcein and become fluorescent [9]. EV labelling procedures were performed for calcein as previously described [10].

Complex biological supplements for cell culture, such as human platelet lysate (hPL), contain their own EVs, which can significantly affect cell physiology, EV release and overall experimental outcomes. The complete removal of these EVs is often impossible; moreover, attempts to remove them may also compromise their vital biological roles [11]. Recognising these challenges, the ISEV Task Force on conditioned medium-derived EVs (CCM-EVs) has recommended that all relevant parameters be reported transparently to ensure reproducibility. In our study, we have followed these guidelines to maintain clarity and reliability in our results. Hence, all experiments were conducted with the same batch of hPL at a consistent concentration for both control and EV-treated groups to create a steady-state conditions in evaluating the biological effects of EVs on the behaviour of recipient cells.

Results of our previous comprehensive quantitative proteomic analysis of MSC-derived EVs showed a high abundance of proteins involved in translation and metabolic pathways, such as oxidative phosphorylation, and a low abundance of proteins involved in inflammation and cell death in the EVs isolated by high-speed centrifugation (HS; 20,000g) [12]. Since our other previous studies [13-15] also supported the functionality of EV20K in inducing an immunosuppressive response, we investigated the potential of this subset of EVs to serve as an off-the-shelf, GMP-compatible product that might provide a feasible way to educate monocytes into a novel subset of alternatively activated macrophages in this study. It is widely acknowledged that in vivo conditions bring a notable level of complexity that can greatly influence the outcomes. As part of our future research, we plan to test EV-educated macrophages for their anti-fibrotic properties in in vivo models to gain a deeper understanding of the possible interactions within a physiologically relevant setting.

Shukoofeh Torabi: conceptualization (equal), data curation (equal), investigation (equal), writing – original draft (equal). Faezeh Shekari: validation (equal), writing – review and editing (equal). Mustapha Najimi: validation (equal), writing – review and editing (equal). Massoud Vosough: validation (equal), writing – review and editing (equal).

The authors declare no conflicts of interest.

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答复Saravanan Sampoornam 等人致编辑的信
我们感谢在给编辑[1]的信中提出的意见,这些意见有助于更深入地了解细胞外囊泡的特征和作用机制。我们坚信,提高透明度对于我们发现的可重复性和推进这一领域的研究至关重要。在我们的研究中,收集WJ-MSCs的条件培养基,然后使用切向流过滤系统浓缩10次,并在4°C下低速(3000 × g)离心10分钟,以去除浓缩培养基中的细胞碎片。然后将部分澄清的培养基置于20,000-110,000 × g范围内的离心力下分离两个亚群:EV20K和EV110K[3]。关于EV表征,我们认为验证参数最权威的参考文献是MISEV2018和MISEV2023指南[4]。因此,我们坚持这些指导方针,以确保稳健和可重复的结果。这些指南建议,可以使用以下一种或几种方法来量化ev(颗粒数量、蛋白质和/或脂质含量)以及直接测量它们的大小[纳米颗粒跟踪分析(NTA)和动态光散射(DLS)][4]。每种粒度分析方法都有其优缺点。例如,尽管NTA可以通过大小和浓度来表征EV,但有几个因素会影响NTA的结果,包括脂蛋白污染、冷冻/解冻循环次数、样品过滤、视频长度和每帧颗粒密度[5]。由于DLS比其他方法更方便使用,并且提供的结果更快,因此使用DLS确定EV大小分布,而使用总蛋白定量估计EV浓度。对于电动汽车的标记,可以使用几种具有独特特性的染料,包括PKH, DiD和钙黄蛋白。PKH和DiD是亲脂性染料,当掺入EV膜时表现出强烈的荧光信号。尽管这两种染料在长期跟踪方面具有优异的稳定性,但与这些染料结合分析相关的一些挑战。这些挑战包括电动汽车样品中的脂蛋白污染,与所有细胞膜片段和非完整的电动汽车非特异性结合,电动汽车解离成血液和血清成分,以及由于自聚集和与电动汽车具有相同大小和形态相似的染料形成胶束而产生的假阳性信号[7,8]。为了克服这些挑战,研究人员使用钙黄蛋白等膜不渗透荧光染料来评估电动汽车的细胞摄取和完整性。这些荧光染料只能识别代谢活跃和完整的囊泡,因为它们需要细胞内酯酶释放钙黄蛋白并成为荧光bb0。如前所述[10],对钙黄蛋白进行EV标记程序。用于细胞培养的复杂生物补充剂,如人血小板裂解液(hPL),含有其自身的EV,这可以显著影响细胞生理、EV释放和整体实验结果。完全去除这些电动汽车通常是不可能的;此外,试图去除它们也可能损害它们至关重要的生物学作用。认识到这些挑战,条件介质衍生电动汽车(ccm - ev) ISEV工作组建议透明地报告所有相关参数,以确保可重复性。在我们的研究中,我们遵循这些指导方针,以保持我们结果的清晰和可靠性。因此,对照组和ev处理组均使用相同浓度的同一批次hPL进行所有实验,为评估ev对受体细胞行为的生物学效应创造稳态条件。我们之前对msc衍生的ev进行的全面定量蛋白质组学分析结果显示,在高速离心分离的ev中,参与翻译和代谢途径(如氧化磷酸化)的蛋白质丰度高,参与炎症和细胞死亡的蛋白质丰度低(HS;20000 g)[12]。由于我们之前的其他研究[13-15]也支持EV20K诱导免疫抑制反应的功能,因此我们在本研究中研究了EV20K作为一种现成的、与gmp兼容的产品的潜力,这种产品可能提供一种可行的方法,将单核细胞培养成一种新的可选活化的巨噬细胞亚群。人们普遍认为,体内条件带来显著的复杂性,可以极大地影响结果。作为我们未来研究的一部分,我们计划在体内模型中测试ev诱导的巨噬细胞的抗纤维化特性,以更深入地了解在生理相关环境中可能的相互作用。Shukoofeh Torabi:概念化(相等),数据整理(相等),调查(相等),写作-原稿(相等)。 Faezeh Shekari:验证(平等),写作-审查和编辑(平等)。Mustapha Najimi:验证(平等),写作-审查和编辑(平等)。Massoud Vosough:验证(相等),写作-审查和编辑(相等)。作者声明无利益冲突。
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