{"title":"Rebuttal of Hendy, Wiles, Binny and Plank","authors":"J. Gibson","doi":"10.1080/00779954.2022.2034177","DOIUrl":null,"url":null,"abstract":"In their comment on my paper ‘Government mandated lockdowns do not reduce Covid-19 deaths: implications for evaluating the stringent New Zealand response’ Hendy, Wiles, Binny and Plank [hereafter HWBP] (Hendy et al, 2022) make several incorrect claims. I deal with these in the second part of this response. Perhaps the most unfortunate aspect of their comment is the fact that out of their 27 references just one is to a study in an economics journal or working paper series; the reference to my own paper. Some of their confusion that I discuss belowmight perhaps have been avoided if they had made greater use of the economics literature. There are at least two interpretations of this failure to cite economics studies. The first is that HWBP are willing to insert themselves into the scholarly conversation of a discipline in which they have no background but lack the scholarly politeness to acknowledge literature in that discipline.1 The second interpretation, which is even more disturbing, is that these authors actually believe that economics has nothing to say, in the sense there are no findings in the economics literature either more broadly or specifically related to Covid-19 that merit their attention. IfHWBPwere unknown academics, questions ofwhether they are conscientious and careful scholars who acknowledge relevant prior findings in the literature they publish into, and whether they have a skewed view of what economics can offer for crafting responses to Covid-19, could probably be ignored and the lack of citation to any economics literature in their comment could be put down to an oversight. However, three of these authors (all except Binny) have assumed dominating positions in public discussions in New Zealand related to Covid-19. A review of advice on Covid-19 received by the New Zealand government (Lally, 2021) notes that the research centre that links the HWBP authors, Te Punaha Matatini (TPM), came to displace public health academics as the source of technical advice on Covid-19. Yet authors of the key initial TPM study (James, Hendy, Plank, & Steyn, 2020), which includes two of HWBP, had no prior record of producing cost benefit analyses (CBA) of health interventions. Other commentators, such as Brash (2021) have also noted that the New Zealand government took Covid-19 advice from some unlikely sources, while neglecting input from economists. Thus, there may be something in the HWBP comment of interest to a future historian trying to explain why economists were so absent from the public discussion in New Zealand about appropriate responses to Covid-19. Relatedly, a future historian might note Hendy’s response to a later critique of the implausible prediction of 83,000 Covid-19 deaths in New Zealand without interventions (as made by TPM in James et al., 2020), where the response was to deride the critique by saying it is: ‘one for the economists-shouldn’t-do-epidemiology files’.2 If some of these influential advisors have","PeriodicalId":38921,"journal":{"name":"New Zealand Economic Papers","volume":null,"pages":null},"PeriodicalIF":0.8000,"publicationDate":"2022-01-02","publicationTypes":"Journal Article","fieldsOfStudy":null,"isOpenAccess":false,"openAccessPdf":"","citationCount":"0","resultStr":null,"platform":"Semanticscholar","paperid":null,"PeriodicalName":"New Zealand Economic Papers","FirstCategoryId":"1085","ListUrlMain":"https://doi.org/10.1080/00779954.2022.2034177","RegionNum":0,"RegionCategory":null,"ArticlePicture":[],"TitleCN":null,"AbstractTextCN":null,"PMCID":null,"EPubDate":"","PubModel":"","JCR":"Q3","JCRName":"ECONOMICS","Score":null,"Total":0}
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In their comment on my paper ‘Government mandated lockdowns do not reduce Covid-19 deaths: implications for evaluating the stringent New Zealand response’ Hendy, Wiles, Binny and Plank [hereafter HWBP] (Hendy et al, 2022) make several incorrect claims. I deal with these in the second part of this response. Perhaps the most unfortunate aspect of their comment is the fact that out of their 27 references just one is to a study in an economics journal or working paper series; the reference to my own paper. Some of their confusion that I discuss belowmight perhaps have been avoided if they had made greater use of the economics literature. There are at least two interpretations of this failure to cite economics studies. The first is that HWBP are willing to insert themselves into the scholarly conversation of a discipline in which they have no background but lack the scholarly politeness to acknowledge literature in that discipline.1 The second interpretation, which is even more disturbing, is that these authors actually believe that economics has nothing to say, in the sense there are no findings in the economics literature either more broadly or specifically related to Covid-19 that merit their attention. IfHWBPwere unknown academics, questions ofwhether they are conscientious and careful scholars who acknowledge relevant prior findings in the literature they publish into, and whether they have a skewed view of what economics can offer for crafting responses to Covid-19, could probably be ignored and the lack of citation to any economics literature in their comment could be put down to an oversight. However, three of these authors (all except Binny) have assumed dominating positions in public discussions in New Zealand related to Covid-19. A review of advice on Covid-19 received by the New Zealand government (Lally, 2021) notes that the research centre that links the HWBP authors, Te Punaha Matatini (TPM), came to displace public health academics as the source of technical advice on Covid-19. Yet authors of the key initial TPM study (James, Hendy, Plank, & Steyn, 2020), which includes two of HWBP, had no prior record of producing cost benefit analyses (CBA) of health interventions. Other commentators, such as Brash (2021) have also noted that the New Zealand government took Covid-19 advice from some unlikely sources, while neglecting input from economists. Thus, there may be something in the HWBP comment of interest to a future historian trying to explain why economists were so absent from the public discussion in New Zealand about appropriate responses to Covid-19. Relatedly, a future historian might note Hendy’s response to a later critique of the implausible prediction of 83,000 Covid-19 deaths in New Zealand without interventions (as made by TPM in James et al., 2020), where the response was to deride the critique by saying it is: ‘one for the economists-shouldn’t-do-epidemiology files’.2 If some of these influential advisors have
Hendy、Wiles、Binny和Plank(以下简称HWBP)(Hendy等人,2022)在他们对我的论文《政府强制封锁并不能减少新冠肺炎死亡人数:对评估新西兰严格应对措施的影响》的评论中提出了几个不正确的说法。我在本答复的第二部分处理这些问题。也许他们评论中最不幸的一点是,在他们的27篇参考文献中,只有一篇是经济学期刊或系列工作论文中的一项研究;参考我自己的论文。如果他们更多地利用经济学文献,我下面讨论的他们的一些困惑也许可以避免。对于这种未能引用经济学研究的现象,至少有两种解释。首先,HWBP愿意将自己插入到一个学科的学术对话中,在这个学科中,他们没有背景,但缺乏承认该学科文学的学术礼貌。1更令人不安的第二种解释是,这些作者实际上认为经济学无话可说,从这个意义上说,经济学文献中没有更广泛或更具体地与新冠肺炎相关的研究结果值得他们关注。如果HWBP是不知名的学者,那么他们是否是认真仔细的学者,承认他们发表的文献中的相关先前发现,以及他们是否对经济学可以为制定应对新冠肺炎的措施提供什么有偏见,可能会被忽视,他们的评论中没有引用任何经济学文献可能会被归咎于疏忽。然而,其中三位作者(除宾尼外)在新西兰与新冠肺炎有关的公开讨论中占据了主导地位。新西兰政府收到的关于新冠肺炎的建议综述(Lally,2021)指出,与HWBP作者Te Punaha Matatini(TPM)联系在一起的研究中心取代了公共卫生学者,成为新冠肺炎技术建议的来源。然而,关键的初始TPM研究(James,Hendy,Plank,&Steyn,2020)的作者,包括两名HWBP,之前没有进行健康干预成本效益分析(CBA)的记录。Brash(2021)等其他评论员也指出,新西兰政府接受了一些不太可能的来源提供的新冠肺炎建议,同时忽视了经济学家的意见。因此,HWBP的评论中可能有一些内容引起了未来历史学家的兴趣,他们试图解释为什么经济学家如此缺席新西兰关于应对新冠肺炎的公众讨论。与此相关的是,一位未来的历史学家可能会注意到Hendy对后来对新西兰8.3万例新冠肺炎死亡病例的不可信预测的回应(正如TPM在James et al.,2020中所做的那样),其中的回应是嘲笑这一评论,称其为:“一个给经济学家的——不应该是经济学文件”