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对Limor Raviv等人的文章的评论(见记录2023-07345-001)。拉维夫等人认为,来自人类语言和非人类动物交流研究的相互矛盾的发现,归结为研究非人类的研究人员与研究人类的研究人员使用了不同的分析水平。研究非人类动物交流的研究人员通常关注信号库的大小或信号库内部和之间的结构变化。相反,研究人类语言的研究人员主要关注的是语法规则问题,这些规则决定了单元(单词和短语)在语音流中的组合方式。控制单元组合方式的组合规则在非人类信号系统中被认为更复杂,但在人类语言系统中更简单。根据拉维夫等人的说法,这种差异源于两个方面。根据评论作者的说法,Raviv等人的关键信息将有助于未来对通信系统进化的研究。Raviv等人建议我们更努力地避免使用诸如“复杂”和“简单”之类的术语,而是专注于我们正在分析的细节。“更大的曲目规模”或“更强的作曲结构”等短语代表了讨论交流时更清晰和更中立的短语,并且可以更好地比较来自非人类和人类的发现。最后,Raviv等人提倡在非人类和人类交流系统之间进行更大的合作,跨学科的工作有着悠久的基础发现历史。(PsycInfo Database Record (c) 2022 APA,版权所有)。
Simplicity and complexity in human and nonhuman communication.
Comments on an article by Limor Raviv et al. (see record 2023-07345-001). Raviv et al. argue that the conflicting findings from human language and from studies of communication in nonhuman animals boil down to different levels of analysis used by researchers studying non-humans compared with those studying humans. Researchers studying nonhuman animal communication typically focus on the size of signal repertoires or the structural variation within and among signals within a repertoire. Researchers studying human language, conversely, largely focus on the question of grammatical rules that govern the way units (words and phrases) are put together in speech streams. Rules of composition that govern the way units are put together are considered more complex in nonhuman signaling systems, but simpler in human language systems. The discrepancy here, according to Raviv et al., stems from two sources. According to the commenting authors, the take home message of Raviv et al. is one that will be helpful to future studies of the evolution of communication systems. Raviv et al. recommend that we work harder to avoid terms such as "complex" and "simple" with regard to communication and instead focus on the specifics of what we are analyzing. Phrases such as "larger repertoire size" or "stronger compositional structure" represent cleaner and more neutral phrases for discussions of communication and would better allow findings from non-humans and from humans to be compared. Finally, Raviv et al. advocate for greater collaborative work across nonhuman and human communication systems, and interdisciplinary work has a long history of fundamental discoveries. (PsycInfo Database Record (c) 2022 APA, all rights reserved).
期刊介绍:
The Journal of Comparative Psychology publishes original research from a comparative perspective
on the behavior, cognition, perception, and social relationships of diverse species.