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非常规政策的提案经常会收到来自媒体、公民、政客、利益集团等的大量负面反应。反事实核查可能是一种简单的方法,可以用来探索这些政策是否真的是个坏主意。在最近一篇关于越来越多的人支持有争议的政策的论文中,我们简要讨论了询问人们对有争议政策提案的反事实是否是个好主意的想法(Van Wee et al.,2023)。我们举了一个将双向街道改为单向街道的例子。我住在荷兰的一个中等城市Amersfoort(2023年1月有近16.1万居民),位于20世纪30年代的一个街区(即Leusderkwartier)。几年前,出于安全和宜居的考虑,当地市政当局建议将该社区的这条道路改为机动交通的单行道(不适合骑自行车的人)。这条路经常被骑自行车的人使用,其中包括12-18岁的高中生。在我居住的街道上,许多人在窗户后面贴了一张海报,上面写着:“让Leusderkwartier无障碍通行”。我没有这样的海报。我的一个邻居问我为什么。我解释说,我不确定自己是否认为这是个坏主意。他回答说,我肯定认为这是个坏主意。我问他为什么。他回应说,这个想法很荒谬,因为那样我们就必须绕道行驶,朝着“相反的方向”行驶。我说他是对的,这当然意味着要绕行一小段路,但也意味着它会成为一条更安全、更安静、更具吸引力的街道。我问他:假设这条街一直是单行道,就像当地市政当局现在建议的那样。假设这个提议是把它变成一条双向的街道。他会认为这是个绝妙的主意吗?我假设他和其他许多人会在窗户后面展示一张海报,上面写着:“确保Leusderkwartier的安全和宜居”。他回应说,他不知道自己是否会支持反事实的改变,这次谈话让他思考。另一个例子。2022年,我参加了在巴黎举行的经合组织圆桌会议。其中一位参与者告诉我,在他看来,将环绕巴黎市中心的城市高速公路Periferique改造成一个有自行车道的公园是一个荒谬的想法。我问他为什么认为这是一个荒谬的想法。他表示,交通强度表明我们需要Periferique路线。我问他:假设Periferique路几十年甚至一个世纪以来都是一个有自行车道的公园,他会支持现在将其改建为城市高速公路的想法吗?沉默了很长时间,接着是“我不知道”。我还问他:如果巴黎,他会怎么想
Is it really a stupid idea? The counterfactual check
Proposals for unconventional policies often receive a lot of negative reactions, from media, citizens, politicians, interest groups, etc. The counterfactual check may be a simple method to explore if such policies are really a bad idea. In a recent paper on growing support for controversial policies, we briefly discussed the idea of asking people whether the counterfactual of a controversial policy proposal would be a good idea (Van Wee et al., 2023). We gave the example of the proposal to convert a two-way street into a one-way street. I live in Amersfoort, a medium-sized city (almost 161,000 inhabitants on January 2023) in the Netherlands, in a 1930s neighbourhood (i.e. the Leusderkwartier). Some years ago, the local municipality suggested to convert that road in that neighbourhood to a one-way street for motorised traffic (not for cyclists), for reasons of safety and liveability. The road is frequently used by cyclists, including 12–18-year-old high school students. In the street where I live, many people had a poster behind their window stating the following: “keep the Leusderkwartier accessible”. I did not have such a poster. One of my neighbours asked why. I explained that I was not sure if I thought it was a bad idea. He responded telling me that I certainly must think it was a bad idea. I asked him why. He responded saying that the idea was ridiculous because we then would have to take a detour driving in “opposite direction”. I said he was right, that of course that would mean a (small) detour, but also that it would become a safer, quieter and consequently more attractive street. I asked him: suppose the street would always have been a one-way street, as the local municipality now suggested. And suppose the proposal was to make it a two-way street. Would he then think this would be a brilliant idea? I hypothesised that he and many others would show a poster behind their window with the following text: “keep the Leusderkwartier safe and liveable”. He responded that he would not know if he would support the counterfactual change, and that this conversation made him think. Another example. In 2022, I was at an OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development) Round Table meeting in Paris. One of the participants told me about the, in his opinion, ridiculous idea of converting the Route Periferique, an urban motorway surrounding central Paris, into a park with a cycle lane. I asked him why he thought that was a ridiculous idea. He indicated that the traffic intensities show that we need the Route Periferique. I asked him: suppose the Route Periferique would have been a park with a cycle lane for decades or even a century, would he support the idea of now converting it into an urban motorway, comparable to the current situation? A long silence occurred, followed by “I do not know”. I also asked him: what would he think would happen if Paris
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