Pub Date : 2021-05-11DOI: 10.5422/fordham/9780823294237.003.0003
Harry Berger
This chapter is the first of a four-part reading of the Simonides poem (and how it is treated in surrounding dialogue) that treats its structure, implicit and explicit premises, and possible outcomes separately. Simonides, Part 1, introduces the poem in translation, concentrating on philological quirks foregrounding themes of poetry, sophistry, and how charismatically delivered argumentation can affect the argument and its participants.
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Pub Date : 2021-05-11DOI: 10.5422/fordham/9780823294237.003.0005
Harry Berger
This chapter concentrates on how Socrates dominates the exchange in divisions three through five, first devoting his posture—ironically or not—to rhemata nostalgic of the “superior wisdom” of Sparta, moving toward unwarranted sophistic logic himself, and then introducing a new metaphor of “good” doctors, re-evaluating Rosamund Sprague’s gloss of the doctor’s eumechania.
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Pub Date : 2021-05-11DOI: 10.5422/fordham/9780823294237.003.0010
Harry Berger
Concluding the book, this chapter focuses its resolution on the premise of how hedonism should or should not be policed as it occurs in Socrates’s and Protagoras’s debate. Having made it deliberately difficult to resolve epistemologically the nature of the good, Socrates endeavors to “win” the debate over how to encourage hedonists to search for good by applying Protagoras’s own principles. Using the structural reading from earlier in the book as well as the notions of literary performance enumerated in chapters six through eight, Socrates ends by linking himself inextricably to Protagoras, that instead of searching for a winner, a reader or interlocutor should instead search for the “atopoi” that has resulted from their dialogue.
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Pub Date : 2021-05-11DOI: 10.5422/fordham/9780823294237.003.0004
Harry Berger
Having established the poem in the readers’ minds in the previous chapter, Simonides, Part 2, introduces a seven-part structure that the rest of the reading will follow, addressing each of the arguments included in the poem, as well as how Socrates and Protagoras use the poem in their argumentation. This chapter treats the first two of the seven divisions, focusing on the “opening debate” that introduces the poem into the dialog.
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Pub Date : 2021-05-11DOI: 10.5422/fordham/9780823294237.003.0009
Harry Berger
Whereas Chapter 7 focuses on a recurring trend in how Protagoras prevaricates, this chapter micro-analyzes one specific rhetorical avoidance: if Protagoras believes that good is divided into different parts, Socrates forces him to choose between which kind of division it most resembles, division between parts of the face or parts of a substance (gold). The chapter deals with Protagoras’s choice: its logical issues, ideas of saving face, and the performance of wearing a mask. The choice of gold, not taken, implicitly offers some insight into the substantial uniformity of the many agents at work in the dialogue, that Plato’s Socrates, Socrates’s Simonides, Protagoras’s Simonides, Socrates’s Protagoras, etc., begin to lose boundaries.
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Pub Date : 2021-05-11DOI: 10.5422/fordham/9780823294237.003.0007
Harry Berger
Leaving behind a strictly structural reading of the poem, this chapter investigates the implications of the Epimethean and Promethean myths that arise within the poem in an attempt to parse what share human beings have in the obtainment and exercise of virtue, and whether even the gods are able to pursue virtue in opposition to necessity. Failing that possibility, the chapter expounds on the necessary self-defeat of Socrates’s own argument.
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Pub Date : 2021-05-11DOI: 10.5422/fordham/9780823294237.003.0008
Harry Berger
This chapter takes up discussion of the complexities inherent to the debate in two major parts: first, how Protagoras’s sophistry concentrates on perpetually deferred, implicit colophons to the premises that he fails to warrant; and secondly, the chapter involves Austinian speech-act theory in Socrates’s use of the poem, concentrating more specifically on how performance colors his rhetoric in ways not readily apparent in cold recitation.
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Pub Date : 2021-05-11DOI: 10.5422/fordham/9780823294237.003.0002
Harry Berger
This chapter offers a new gloss of the pivotal “bed” in book 10 of Plato’s Republic as the classical kline or triclinium, the couch. This new object introduces the stakes of Socrates’s position in his debate with Protagoras by way of the threat of the polis descending into a hedonistic city arranged around the determined hedonism of the couch, of uncontrolled or contagious leisure in contrast to searching for the good.
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Pub Date : 2021-05-11DOI: 10.5422/fordham/9780823294237.003.0006
Harry Berger
Reading the final divisions, this chapter begins by considering how Socrates and Protagoras have proven Simonides’s poem to be fruitless and concludes by doing the same to Socrates himself. The chapter posits that Socrates has created a necessary aporia in his debate with Protagoras over the nature of good, wherein neither can be right or wrong without also countermanding their own position.
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Pub Date : 2021-05-04DOI: 10.1515/9780823294251-001
Jill Frank
Jill Frank introduces Berger’s argument by addressing the ethicalities of Plato’s proposed Klinopolis—his “Couch City”—whether it promises to be the good city, the bad city, or perhaps something else, while highlighting Protagoras’s insistence on teaching a fixed program for making good decisions. Socrates names Protagoras’s stance “the political art.” Performing “political art” virtuously sits in the heart of Berger’s couch city. Although the Protagoras has traditionally been read as a resounding victory for Socrates over Protagoras’s claims of virtue, Berger, as Frank notes, sees the outcome differently. For Berger, Socrates, in “beating Protagoras at his own game,” becomes Protagoras’s double. This doubling of speech, however, fails to produce an ethical resolution from either Protagoras or Socrates; instead, their speeches become “occasions for weaponizing virtue” and evading responsibility for their words. According to Berger, both Socrates and Protagoras fail. But as Frank suggests, their failures prompt “readers of the dialogue to do otherwise”—to “open a different ethics, rhetoric, and politics of responsibility.”
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