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IF 7.7 1区 经济学 Q1 ECONOMICS Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.1086/700903
Matthew Rognlie
This paper provides the most careful and clearheaded study to date of the factor distribution of income in the United States. Its most important contribution is the introduction of a new concept, “factorless income,” which is the residual after assigning aggregate income to labor and capital. Unlike many other studies, which simply assume that factorless income corresponds to either economic profit, unmeasured capital, or a return premium, this paper is agnostic and entertains all three possibilities. It turns out that none of the three is a perfect match for the data, but economic profit is a particularly ill-fitting explanation. This calls into question some recent work on rising markups in the United States, and I suspect that Karabarbounis andNeiman’s critique will quickly become central to the literature. The following comment has two parts. First, I will provide my own brief tour of factor income trends in the United States, covering much of the same territory as Karabarbounis and Neiman but in a cursory and simplifiedway. Second, I will discuss the paper’s key contributions, especially its rejection of “case P,” the interpretation of factorless income as economic profit. I conclude that the paper is quite successful inmaking its case, and that futurework should build upon it by combining the paper’s three cases, with a special emphasis on “case R,” the discrepancy between interest rates and the rate of return on capital.
本文提供了迄今为止对美国收入要素分配最仔细、最清晰的研究。它最重要的贡献是引入了一个新概念,“无因素收入”,即将总收入分配给劳动和资本后的剩余收入。与许多其他研究不同,这些研究简单地假设无因素收入对应于经济利润、未测量资本或回报溢价,而本文是不可知论的,并考虑了所有三种可能性。事实证明,这三者都不能与数据完美匹配,但经济利润是一个特别不合适的解释。这引起了人们对最近一些关于美国不断上涨的加成率的研究的质疑,我怀疑卡拉巴伯尼斯和内曼的批评将很快成为相关文献的核心。下面的评论有两个部分。首先,我将提供我自己对美国要素收入趋势的简要介绍,涵盖与卡拉巴布尼斯和内曼相同的大部分领域,但以粗略和简化的方式。其次,我将讨论这篇论文的主要贡献,特别是它拒绝了“案例P”,即将无因素收入解释为经济利润。我的结论是,这篇论文非常成功地阐述了自己的观点,未来的工作应该在此基础上结合这篇论文的三个案例,特别强调“案例R”,即利率与资本回报率之间的差异。
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IF 7.7 1区 经济学 Q1 ECONOMICS Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.1086/700906
Lawrence F. Katz
Kerwin Kofi Charles, Erik Hurst, and Mariel Schwartz provide an insightful and comprehensive empirical examination of the link between the transformation of the US manufacturing sector and the substantial decline in the employment rates and average annual hours worked of prime-age adults (those aged 21–55), especially men and less educated women, since 2000. Charles et al. document that US manufacturing experienced a massive decline in employment of 5 million jobs, a large increase in capital intensity, and substantial skill upgrading from 2000 to 2017. They exploit geographic variation in manufacturing employment decline across commuting zones (CZs) in the 2000s using a Bartik (shiftshare) instrument to assess the “causal” impact of local manufacturing employment demand shocks on employment outcomes. Charles et al.find that CZs with larger manufacturing employment declines have larger declines in employment rates, hours worked, and wages for prime-age workers from2000 to 2016, regardless ofwhether the adversemanufacturing shocks were related to China trade shocks or other sources. Charles et al. conclude that manufacturing decline can account for about half of the prime-agemale employment rate decline since 2000. Geographic areas with bigger manufacturing employment losses in the 2000s also experience greater social problems as seen in more severe drug and opioid addiction problems. Finally, Charles et al. show that adversemanufacturing employment shocks have generated less geographicmobility (less of a regional migration response) and more persistent impacts on employment rates in the 2000s than in the 1980s. I find the analysis of Charles et al. to bewell crafted and quite convincing. Their findings of adverse labor demand shocks against less educated workers being a driving force in declining employment rates in the 2000s complement other work using cross-area variation in China trade exposure (Autor, Dorn, and Hanson 2013) and automation shocks
Kerwin Kofi Charles、Erik Hurst和Mariel Schwartz对2000年以来美国制造业转型与黄金年龄成年人(21-55岁),尤其是男性和受教育程度较低的女性的就业率和平均年工作时间大幅下降之间的联系进行了深入而全面的实证研究。Charles等人记录称,从2000年到2017年,美国制造业经历了500万个就业岗位的大幅下降,资本密集度大幅上升,技能大幅提升。他们利用2000年代通勤区制造业就业下降的地理差异,使用Bartik(shiftshare)工具评估当地制造业就业需求冲击对就业结果的“因果”影响。Charles等人发现,从2000年到2016年,制造业就业下降幅度较大的捷克人的就业率、工作时间和黄金年龄工人的工资下降幅度较大,无论不利的制造业冲击与中国贸易冲击或其他来源有关。Charles等人得出结论,自2000年以来,制造业的下降约占主要管理层就业率下降的一半。2000年代制造业就业损失较大的地理区域也经历了更大的社会问题,如更严重的毒品和阿片类药物成瘾问题。最后,Charles等人表明,与20世纪80年代相比,21世纪初,不利的实际就业冲击产生了更少的地理流动性(更少的区域移民反应),并对就业率产生了更持久的影响。我发现Charles等人的分析是精心策划的,非常有说服力。他们发现,对受教育程度较低的工人的不利劳动力需求冲击是21世纪初就业率下降的驱动力,这一发现利用中国贸易敞口的跨地区变化(Autor、Dorn和Hanson,2013)和自动化冲击补充了其他工作
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IF 7.7 1区 经济学 Q1 ECONOMICS Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.1086/700900
Juliane Begenau
where the franchise value is the difference between the fair and book value of bank equity. The franchise value is positive when banks can increase the value of their assets above their costs, as captured by the book value, or when banks have a funding advantage. A clever application of a standard valuation technique in finance, the Gordon growthmodel, allows the authors to calculate the model-implied market-to-book ratio and the franchise value of the aggregate US banking sector. The inputs to the model are simply a discount rate, the cash flow to bank equity, and a cash flow growth rate. This method is accurate as long as its inputs accurately capture the cash flow process, the risk, and the opportunity cost of capital for bank equity investors. Using bank accounting data and corporate excess return data, the authors calculate banks’model implied franchise value and market-to-book ratio, that is, two of the three terms in the above equation. They conclude that the reduction in bank market valuation is primarily due to a reduction in the value of government guarantees. In my comments, I first present a simplified version of the valuation method to highlight the authors’ key assumptions. Second, I present evidence that banks are exposed to interest rate risk, leading me to argue that interest rate risk should be taken into account for amore compelling
其中特许经营价值为银行权益的公允价值与账面价值之差。当银行能够将其资产价值提高到高于其成本的水平时(如账面价值所示),或者当银行拥有资金优势时,特许经营价值为正。戈登增长模型(Gordon growthmodel)巧妙地应用了金融领域的标准估值技术,使作者能够计算出模型隐含的市净率和美国银行业的特许经营价值。模型的输入仅仅是贴现率、银行权益的现金流和现金流增长率。这种方法是准确的,只要它的输入准确地捕捉现金流过程,风险,以及银行股权投资者的资本机会成本。利用银行会计数据和公司超额收益数据,作者计算了银行模型隐含特许经营价值和市净率,即上述等式中三个术语中的两个。他们得出的结论是,银行市场估值的下降主要是由于政府担保价值的下降。在我的评论中,我首先提出了一个简化版本的估值方法,以突出作者的关键假设。其次,我提出了银行面临利率风险的证据,这使我认为,利率风险应该被考虑在内,这更有说服力
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IF 7.7 1区 经济学 Q1 ECONOMICS Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.1086/700909
N. Mankiw
Any well-trained economist is tempted to say that this question is not well posed, or that neither statement is really true, or something like that. But this is meant to be a psychological gauge of one’s predispositions, not an analytic exercise. So humor me and write down your answer. I will get back to it in a minute. Now, back to border taxes. There is no doubt in my mind that the broad issue addressed in this paper is an important one. In Washington policy circles, a common argument is that Europe’s value-added taxes (VATs) are adverse to American trade interests. After all, the European VAT taxes imports and exempts exports. From the mercantilist perspective that (unfortunately) dominates public discussion of trade, what could be worse that a policy that encourages American imports and hurts American exports? Needless to say, Washington policy circles are not dominated by PhD economists steeped in general equilibrium theory and the Lerner symmetry theorem. I recall one conversation I had about this issue with a colleague when I worked in the Bush administration. He was not an economist, but rather an Ivy League-educated lawyer. He was a smart guy with a lot of experience in the policy and politics of international trade negotiations. I told him that economists don’t view value added taxes thatway, that equilibrium exchange rates adjust to ensure that these border taxes do not impede trade. I recall his response: “Yeah, I have had a lot of econ-
任何训练有素的经济学家都会说,这个问题提出得不好,或者这两种说法都不是真的,或者诸如此类。但这是一种衡量一个人倾向的心理指标,而不是一种分析练习。所以请幽默我,写下你的答案。我一会儿再谈。现在,回到边境税。毫无疑问,在我看来,本文件所涉及的广泛问题是一个重要问题。在华盛顿的政策圈子里,一个常见的论点是,欧洲的增值税不利于美国的贸易利益。毕竟,欧洲的增值税对进口征税,对出口免税。从重商主义的角度来看,(不幸的是)主导着公众对贸易的讨论,还有什么比鼓励美国进口、损害美国出口的政策更糟糕的呢?不用说,华盛顿的政策圈并不是由精通一般均衡理论和勒纳对称定理的博士经济学家主导的。我记得我在布什政府工作时与一位同事就这个问题进行的一次对话。他不是经济学家,而是常春藤盟校毕业的律师。他是一个聪明的人,在国际贸易谈判的政策和政治方面有着丰富的经验。我告诉他,经济学家不会那样看待增值税,均衡汇率会进行调整,以确保这些边境税不会阻碍贸易。我记得他的回答:“是的,我有很多经济-
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IF 7.7 1区 经济学 Q1 ECONOMICS Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.1086/700914
A. Atkeson
Andrew Atkeson pointed out that rural-to-urban transitions are typically associated with a selection effect. Those who leave early are more skilled and adaptable. As time goes by, thosewho haven’tmigrated are less likely to transition to a different job and remain in place. Atkeson askedwhether the same phenomenon is at play in the United States. The authors mentioned that mobility among the young is usually an important margin of adjustment. They noted that a striking feature of the data is that the young aren’t moving out with the same propensity as in the past. Several participants offered comments and formulated conjectures regarding the possible causes for the lack of mobility. Richard Rogerson shared Atkeson’s view that selection might play an important role. Rogerson suggested that migration of skilled workers out of manufacturing towns leads to a collapse of the tax base and a deterioration in the provision of services. Guido Lorenzoni noted that relocating is an investment activity. As such, the return on this investment is crucial for geographic mobility. Lorenzoni inquired about the evidence on the returns to moving out of manufacturing towns. Robert Gordon argued workers may not be able to pay the costs ofmoving simply because their wages are too low. Gordon pushed back on the idea that land-use regulation is an impediment for mobility, an idea that was raised by both discussants. He reminded the audience that most population growth in the United States is in large flat areas, which do not have exorbitant real estate prices. Valerie Ramey joined the discussion and referred to Michael W. L. Elsby and Matthew D. Shapiro (“Why Does Trend Growth Affect Equilibrium Employment? A New Explanation of an Old Puzzle,” American Economic Review 102, no. 4: 1378–1413). Their work emphasizes the role of labor productivity growth for the decline in labor mobility. When labor productivity growth is low, as it currently is, workers are not willing to move away for low-wage jobs.
Andrew Atkeson指出,农村向城市的转变通常与选择效应有关。那些提前离开的人更熟练,适应能力更强。随着时间的推移,那些没有移民的人不太可能转换到另一份工作并留在原地。阿特克森问美国是否也存在同样的现象。作者提到,年轻人的流动性通常是一个重要的调整幅度。他们指出,数据的一个显著特点是,年轻人搬出去的倾向与过去不同。一些与会者就缺乏流动性的可能原因提出了意见和推测。Richard Rogerson赞同Atkeson的观点,即选拔可能发挥重要作用。罗杰森认为,技术工人从制造业城镇迁出会导致税基崩溃和服务提供恶化。Guido Lorenzoni指出,搬迁是一项投资活动。因此,这项投资的回报对地域流动性至关重要。洛伦佐尼询问了从制造业城镇迁出的证据。罗伯特·戈登认为,工人们可能无法仅仅因为工资太低而支付搬家费用。戈登反驳了土地使用监管阻碍流动的观点,这一观点是由两位讨论者提出的。他提醒观众,美国大多数人口增长都在大面积的平坦地区,那里没有过高的房地产价格。Valerie Ramey加入了讨论,并提到了Michael W.L.Elsby和Matthew D.Shapiro(“为什么趋势增长影响均衡就业?一个老难题的新解释”,《美国经济评论》102,第4期:1378-1413)。他们的工作强调了劳动生产率增长对劳动力流动性下降的作用。当劳动生产率增长率像目前这样低时,工人们不愿意离开去从事低工资的工作。
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IF 7.7 1区 经济学 Q1 ECONOMICS Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.1086/700901
L. Summers
I salute the authors’ endeavor to usemarket price to examine the riskiness of the financial system and to evaluate the change in the subsidy represented by government guarantees. As illustrated by my work with Natasha Sarin (Sarin and Summers 2016), which the authors reference, I believe that market information is at a minimum a valuable complement to accounting information in evaluating the health of banks. I would guess that their broad conclusion—that if a crisis like 2008 were to happen again,wewould have insolvent banks—is correct. And I find it plausible that, as the authors believe, a combination of more regulatory capital, establishment of resolution procedures, and official commitments to move beyond too-big-to-fail have reduced the market’s perception of implicit guarantees. That said, I have to report that I’m almost entirely unconvinced by any of the authors’ estimates and believe that all reflect arbitrary and in some cases implausible modeling assumptions. I do not believe they have any real basis for their claims about the extent to which declining franchise value, as opposed to capitalized government subsidies, is responsible for banks’ lowmarket-to-book equity ratios. It’s not that I have clearly different views than the authors, just that I do not believe their measurements are convincing. First, there are some real questions about the theory of subsidies that are raised by the kind of analysis that is done here. Let’s imagine that the government decided to subsidize ice cream cones for all companies that sold ice cream cones. What would we expect? I think we would expect that there would be lower-priced ice cream cones. I think we would expect that the quantity of ice cream cones sold would go up. I think we would expect no change in the Q ratio of ice cream cone companies, if this was a competitive industry. If ice cream cones, and the production of ice cream cones, involved investment that took place with adjustment costs,
我赞扬作者们努力利用市场价格来检验金融系统的风险,并评估政府担保所代表的补贴的变化。正如我与Natasha Sarin的合作(Sarin和Summers,2016)所表明的那样,我认为在评估银行健康状况时,市场信息至少是会计信息的宝贵补充。我想他们的大致结论是正确的——如果像2008年这样的危机再次发生,我们将有资不抵债的银行。我发现,正如作者所认为的那样,更多的监管资本、建立处置程序以及官方承诺超越“大到不能倒”的结合,降低了市场对隐性担保的看法,这是合理的。也就是说,我必须报告,我几乎完全不相信作者的任何估计,并认为所有这些都反映了武断的,在某些情况下是难以置信的建模假设。我不相信他们有任何真正的依据来证明他们的说法,即特许经营价值的下降,而不是资本化的政府补贴,在多大程度上是银行低市值与账面股本比率的原因。这并不是说我和作者有明显不同的观点,只是我不相信他们的测量是令人信服的。首先,这里所做的分析提出了一些关于补贴理论的真实问题。让我们想象一下,政府决定为所有销售冰淇淋筒的公司提供冰淇淋筒补贴。我们会期待什么?我想我们预计会有价格更低的雪糕筒。我想我们预计冰淇淋蛋卷的销量会上升。我认为,如果这是一个竞争激烈的行业,我们预计冰淇淋蛋卷公司的Q比率不会发生变化。如果冰淇淋蛋卷和冰淇淋蛋卷的生产涉及到带调整成本的投资,
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IF 7.7 1区 经济学 Q1 ECONOMICS Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.1086/700891
M. Eichenbaum, J. Parker
NBER’s 33rd Annual Conference on Macroeconomics brought together leading scholars to present, discuss, and debate six research papers on central issues in contemporary macroeconomics. In addition, Ragu Rajan, former governor of the Reserve Bank of India and former chief economist and director of research at the International Monetary Fund, delivered a thought-provoking after-dinner talk comparing the economic institutions in India and China and drawing out their implications for the economic growth potential of each country. Finally, we had a special panel session on the macroeconomic effects of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, moderated by NBER President James Poterba and featuring three leading experts in this area: Wendy Edelberg, associate director for economic analysis at the Congressional Budget Office; Kent Smetters, Boettner Chair Professor of Business Economics and Public Policy at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School; and Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody’s Analytics. Video recordings of the presentations of the papers, summaries of the papers by the authors, and the lunchtime panel discussion are all accessible on the web page of the NBER Annual Conference on Macroeconomics. These videos make a useful complement to this volume and make the content of the conference more widely accessible. This conference volume contains edited versions of the six papers presented at the conference, each followed by two written comments by leading scholars and a summary discussion of the debates that followed each paper. The first paper in this year’s volume takes an important step in understanding the implications of an assumption that is commonly used in mainstreammacromodels: people routinely solve extremely complicated, infinite-horizon planning problems. This assumption is clearly wrong. So a key question is, When does this assumption lead to misleading con-
NBER第33届宏观经济学年会汇集了顶尖学者,就当代宏观经济学的核心问题发表、讨论和辩论了六篇研究论文。此外,印度储备银行前行长、国际货币基金组织前首席经济学家兼研究主任拉古·拉詹在晚餐后发表了一篇发人深省的演讲,比较了印度和中国的经济机构,并阐述了它们对每个国家经济增长潜力的影响。最后,我们举行了一次关于2017年《减税和就业法案》宏观经济影响的特别小组会议,由国家经济研究院院长James Poterba主持,三位该领域的顶尖专家出席了会议:国会预算办公室经济分析副主任Wendy Edelberg;Kent Smeters,宾夕法尼亚大学沃顿商学院Boettner商业经济学和公共政策讲座教授;以及穆迪分析公司首席经济学家Mark Zandi。论文介绍的视频记录、作者的论文摘要以及午餐时间的小组讨论都可以在国家经济研究所宏观经济学年会的网页上访问。这些视频是对本卷的有益补充,使会议内容更容易获得。本会议卷包含了在会议上发表的六篇论文的编辑版本,每一篇都有两篇主要学者的书面评论,以及对每一篇论文之后的辩论的总结讨论。今年卷中的第一篇论文在理解主流宏观模型中常用的一个假设的含义方面迈出了重要的一步:人们经常解决极其复杂、无限范围的规划问题。这种假设显然是错误的。因此,一个关键问题是,这种假设何时会导致误导性的骗局-
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IF 7.7 1区 经济学 Q1 ECONOMICS Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.1086/700905
R. Hall
This ingenious paper by Koslowski, Veldkamp, and Venkateswaran develops a model with two main components. The first is rooted in the financial economics of asset pricing. It describes amechanism linking bad financial experiences to lengthy periods of low riskless interest rates. The second is rooted in corporate finance. It considers features of financial institutions and markets that explain why safe assets enjoy a larger increase in value in bad times than is captured in standard asset pricing models. I will start by exploring the simple two-period, two-state Lucas (1978) model of asset pricing to develop a sense of the challenges in understanding the pricing of risky and riskless assets. Investor households receive 1 unit of endowment to consume now and a random endowment with two possible values to consume in the future, c1 and c2 in states 1 and 2. State 1 is normal and state 2 is a disasterwith considerably lower consumption. The probabilities of the two consumption levels are 1 p and p, respectively. These two values of possible consumption are constrained so that expected consumption growth is at a designated rate g:
Koslowski、Veldkamp和Venkateswaran的这篇巧妙的论文开发了一个由两个主要组件组成的模型。第一个根源于资产定价的金融经济学。它描述了一种将糟糕的金融经历与长期低风险利率联系起来的机制。第二个根源在于企业融资。它考虑了金融机构和市场的特征,这些特征解释了为什么安全资产在糟糕时期的价值增长比标准资产定价模型中的价值增长更大。我将从探索简单的两个时期、两个州的Lucas(1978)资产定价模型开始,以了解理解风险和无风险资产定价的挑战。投资者家庭现在可以获得1个单位的捐赠,未来可以获得两个可能值的随机捐赠,即状态1和2中的c1和c2。状态1是正常的,状态2是消耗低得多的灾难。这两个消耗水平的概率分别为1p和p。这两个可能的消费值受到限制,使得预期的消费增长处于指定的速率g:
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IF 7.7 1区 经济学 Q1 ECONOMICS Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.1086/700910
A. Atkeson, Dilip Abreu, David Pearce
Xavier Gabaix welcomed the broader agenda to which the paper contributes and that recognizes a larger role for behavioral features in macroeconomic models. Gabaix was curious about the ability of Woodford’s model to obtain Fisher neutrality in the long run while resolving the “forward guidance puzzle.”He followed up on a point raised by Jennifer La’O during her discussion and noted that several recent papers pursue an exercise similar to Woodford’s but consider different behavioral frictions. Gabaix asked how the predictions of the model at the aggregate level differed from the ones in these papers and suggested that these alternative models should be judged in light of these predictions. Finally, he offered a broader comment about the role of bounded rationality for decisions at the micro and macro levels. According to estimates of his, the discount factor is roughly 0.85 per quarter in a macro context, suggesting a planning horizon of 2 years. Gabaix concluded that agents can be very patient at the micro level, when making professional and familial decisions, but may have a more limited attention to macro disturbances. The author pointed out that there is indeed a formal similarity between the reduced-form equations he obtained and those associated with other behavioral frictions, including sparsity in the case of Gabaix (“A Behavioral New Keynesian Model” [Working Paper, Harvard University, 2018]). He emphasized that his model differs from other contributions, not only in terms of the foundations but also in terms of predictions at the aggregate level. An important difference, he argued, is that his model resolves the issue of multiplicity of equilibria. Another difference he mentioned is that his model allows for learning dynamics. The learning component has crucial implications for long-lasting policy experiments, such as a permanent interest rate peg. On this point, the author clarified that adaptive learning of the value functions is the very mechanism that allows one to obtain Fisher neutrality in the long run,
Xavier Gabaix欢迎这篇论文为更广泛的议程做出贡献,并承认行为特征在宏观经济模型中发挥着更大的作用。Gabaix很好奇Woodford的模型在解决“前瞻指导难题”的同时,能否在长期内获得Fisher中立性。他跟进了Jennifer La 'O在讨论中提出的一个观点,并指出最近有几篇论文进行了类似于Woodford的练习,但考虑了不同的行为摩擦。Gabaix询问该模型在总体水平上的预测与这些论文中的预测有何不同,并建议应该根据这些预测来判断这些替代模型。最后,他对有限理性在微观和宏观层面决策中的作用提出了更广泛的评论。根据他的估计,在宏观背景下,贴现率约为每季度0.85,这表明规划期限为2年。Gabaix总结说,在做专业和家庭决策时,代理人在微观层面上可以非常耐心,但对宏观干扰的关注可能更有限。作者指出,他获得的简化形式方程与其他行为摩擦相关的方程之间确实存在形式相似性,包括Gabaix案例中的稀疏性(“行为新凯恩斯主义模型”[Working Paper, Harvard University, 2018])。他强调,他的模型不同于其他贡献,不仅在基础方面,而且在总体水平上的预测方面。他认为,一个重要的区别在于,他的模型解决了均衡的多重性问题。他提到的另一个不同之处在于,他的模型允许动态学习。学习部分对长期的政策实验具有关键意义,比如永久性的钉住利率。在这一点上,作者澄清了价值函数的适应性学习正是允许人们在长期内获得费雪中立性的机制。
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IF 7.7 1区 经济学 Q1 ECONOMICS Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.1086/700913
The authors started by thanking both discussants. They agreed with Robert Hall’s assessment that the paper contains two distinct parts but slightly disagreed on their characterization. They viewed the first part as proposing a mechanism for the propagation of a financial crisis and its effect on interest rates. The second part proposes a mechanism for the endogenous persistence of financial crises. The authors clarified that their paper focuses on persistence, whereas both discussants mostly focused on propagation. The authors argued that they opted for a simple yet quantitatively realistic propagation mechanism based on liquidity constraints. Their emphasis is on a novel persistence mechanism and its ability to explain a decrease in riskless interest rates over an extended period of time. Their persistence mechanism relies solely on agents not knowing the true distribution of shocks and estimating it over time. GregoryMankiw spoke next and asked the authors why they focused specifically on the recent financial crisis instead of taking amore general approach. He suggested that they could study other related episodes, including the Great Depression and the Great Moderation. Several participants proposed alternative approaches to validate the authors’mechanism.GitaGopinath suggested lookingatdisasters in emergingmarkets. Valerie Ramey recommended investigating the response of land prices to earthquakes. Emmanuel Farhi proposed studying a broader class of assets and analyzing whether their behavior is consistent with the prediction of the authors’ theory. He suggested looking into the cross-section of stocks and exchange rates during and following the Great Recession. The authors were sympathetic to these suggestions. They explained that they could not extend their analysis to the Great Depression due to data limitations. Mankiw pointed out that real rates have decreased over time since the Great Depression, whereas the authors’ persistence mechanism would
作者首先感谢了两位讨论者。他们同意罗伯特·霍尔的评估,即论文包含两个不同的部分,但在它们的特征上略有不同。他们认为第一部分是提出金融危机传播的机制及其对利率的影响。第二部分提出了金融危机内生持续的机制。作者澄清说,他们的论文关注的是持久性,而两位讨论者主要关注的是传播。作者认为,他们选择了一种基于流动性约束的简单但在数量上可行的传播机制。他们的重点是一种新的持续机制及其解释无风险利率在一段较长时间内下降的能力。它们的持续机制完全依赖于代理不知道冲击的真实分布和随时间的估计。格雷戈里·曼昆接着发言,他问两位作者,为什么他们特别关注最近的金融危机,而不是采取更普遍的方法。他建议他们可以研究其他相关事件,包括大萧条和大缓和。几位与会者提出了替代方法来验证作者的机制。GitaGopinath建议关注新兴市场的灾难。瓦莱丽•拉米建议调查土地价格对地震的反应。Emmanuel Farhi建议研究更广泛的资产类别,并分析它们的行为是否与作者的理论预测相一致。他建议研究大衰退期间和之后的股票和汇率的横截面。作者对这些建议表示赞同。他们解释说,由于数据的限制,他们无法将分析扩展到大萧条时期。曼昆指出,自大萧条以来,实际利率一直在下降,而作者的持续机制则会下降
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