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Tideline 潮汐线
IF 0.5 3区 文学 0 LANGUAGE & LINGUISTICS Pub Date : 2023-01-02 DOI: 10.1080/07374836.2023.2179826
W. Polanski
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Blind Owl 盲目的猫头鹰
IF 0.5 3区 文学 0 LANGUAGE & LINGUISTICS Pub Date : 2023-01-02 DOI: 10.1080/07374836.2023.2179828
R. Zarei
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The Iterative, Even Infinite 迭代,甚至无限
IF 0.5 3区 文学 0 LANGUAGE & LINGUISTICS Pub Date : 2023-01-02 DOI: 10.1080/07374836.2023.2179314
A. Levinson-LaBrosse
The modes of creation and preservation of nineteenth-century Kurdish poetry reveal the fallacy and short-sightedness of the definitive and the singular. No text is static. Each text is many. Each text contains and requires communities. I have come to think of this as a terrific metaphor for the subtle truth of all text, even where a poet’s handwriting exists, and contemporary readers contend that they can verify the poet’s intent. If as translators, we treat each text, no matter its point of origin or host language, as dynamic rather than static, we humble ourselves about any one translation we may make. We open ourselves and our translations up to the strengths and contributions of others. Co-translation can continue becoming a practice born not of what we lack, but of what we are curious we can make when a translation begins in multiple perspectives. We help ourselves and our readers remember why the proliferation of translations for any one text remains continually necessary and exciting. Translators—all readers—can let go of the definitive in favor of the iterative, even infinite, process that is understanding. Over the last ten years, more than forty cotranslators and I have published over sixty poems, short stories, interviews, and book-length collections of Kurdish literature in English-language translation. Many of the authors we worked with had never before been translated into English. We collaborated because we both wanted and needed to work together: poetry—and all Kurdish literature, from horoscopes to theology, was poetry until the early twentieth century—demanded translators of various specialties working together. A single poem often included up to four languages (Arabic, Persian, Turkish, and Kurdish), with at least three different dialects of Kurdish (Kurmanji, Sorani, and Gorani) that have since diverged into distinct, at times mutually unintelligible, entities. Beyond that, these historical poets grew up in the Islamic educational system (at the time, the only one), so they drew heavily on the Islamic sciences, Islamic numerology, and nowobscure theology. To even begin to understand these poems was already a process of translation that took place between Kurdish speakers who had grown up in various dialects, with varying levels of Islamic education and varying understandings of the Kurdish, Arabic, Persian, and Turkish literary traditions. To bring these poems into English was yet another translation. And that specific act of translation, from Kurdish to English, even now has very few dictionaries or thesauruses. Each word we couldn’t find in a dictionary required we create a community that could agree on its meaning/s. For each poem, we built out an individuated glossary and integrated comments from multiple expert readers. Community was where we began. Community was where any attempt at translation had to begin. Each translation team thought through how much cultural translation they wanted to do, how many references they fo
19世纪库尔德诗歌的创作和保存模式揭示了确定性和单一性的谬误和短视。没有文本是静态的。每个文本都是很多的。每个文本都包含并要求社区。我认为这是对所有文本的微妙真相的一个极好的隐喻,即使诗人的笔迹存在,当代读者也声称他们可以证实诗人的意图。如果作为译者,我们对待每一篇文本,无论其来源或宿主语言如何,都是动态的,而不是静态的,那么我们就会对我们所做的任何一项翻译感到谦卑。我们将自己和我们的翻译开放给他人的优势和贡献。共同翻译可以继续成为一种实践,不是因为我们缺乏什么,而是因为当翻译从多个角度开始时,我们对自己能做些什么感到好奇。我们帮助我们自己和我们的读者记住为什么任何一个文本的翻译的激增仍然是必要的和令人兴奋的。译者——所有的读者——都可以放弃确定性,转而选择迭代的、甚至是无限的理解过程。在过去的十年里,我和四十多名合作者出版了六十多首诗歌、短篇小说、访谈和以英语翻译的库尔德文学书籍。我们合作过的许多作家以前从未被翻译成英文。我们合作是因为我们都希望并且需要一起工作:诗歌——以及所有库尔德文学,从占星术到神学,直到20世纪初都是诗歌——需要不同专业的翻译人员一起工作。一首诗通常包含多达四种语言(阿拉伯语,波斯语,土耳其语和库尔德语),至少有三种不同的库尔德方言(库尔曼吉语,索拉尼语和戈拉尼语),这些方言后来分化成不同的,有时相互难以理解的实体。除此之外,这些历史上的诗人都是在伊斯兰教育体系中长大的(当时是唯一的),所以他们大量地借鉴了伊斯兰科学、伊斯兰数字命理学,以及现在鲜为人知的神学。要开始理解这些诗歌已经是一个翻译的过程,这个过程发生在说库尔德语的人之间,他们在不同的方言中长大,接受过不同程度的伊斯兰教育,对库尔德语、阿拉伯语、波斯语和土耳其文学传统的理解也各不相同。把这些诗译成英语又是一种翻译。这种从库尔德语到英语的具体翻译,直到现在也很少有词典或同义词库。我们在字典中找不到的每个单词都需要我们创建一个能够就其含义达成一致的社区。对于每首诗,我们都建立了一个个性化的词汇表,并整合了多位专家读者的评论。社区是我们开始的地方。社区是任何翻译尝试必须开始的地方。每个翻译团队都仔细考虑了他们想要做多少文化翻译,他们发现自己愿意让多少参考文献淡化以支持音乐性或感觉,在失去可能不熟悉诗歌上下文的英语读者之前,他们可以让多少感觉流失,最坏的情况是,他们可能对诗歌的原始语境有严重的偏见。每个团队对这些问题的回答不同,翻译也不同。我们接受了所谓的“不同意见的翻译”,即团队成员可能完全独立完成的翻译,以显示他们认为可能的或他们想要做的不同的翻译。不同意见是共同体,而不是它的对立面。我们从来没有想过要像许多翻译家几代以来所做的那样,给任何一个共同翻译家以特权。没有一个“真正的”翻译家,当然也没有一个合作者可以被贬为没有署名的“有腿的词典”。每个人都必不可少。翻译评论2023,第115卷,第115期。1, 23-34 https://doi.org/10.1080/07374836.2023.2179314
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Communal Translation in the Classroom 课堂上的集体翻译
IF 0.5 3区 文学 0 LANGUAGE & LINGUISTICS Pub Date : 2023-01-02 DOI: 10.1080/07374836.2023.2179295
E. Fishman
David was sitting in the corner of our small classroom library when Isabel called him over to her small group. “David, we need you! In Guatemalan Spanish, what does ‘miran’ mean?” David sat down and quietly talked with the group as they worked on a translation of Rosa Chávez’s poem “Ri Ti’ Tuj / La Abuela de Temescal.” I overheard snatches of conversation about syntactical differences in Spanish and English. “We have to change the word order when we translate,” Isabel explained to Victor, another member of the group. Three of the four students in the group were heritage Spanish speakers, with a multitude of relationships to the language; their families were from El Salvador, the Dominican Republic, and Guatemala. For this poem, David was the expert. A few minutes later, he tried to leave again, but the group called him back with a question: “What do you think would match more here for ‘visitarnos’? Visit us, or we visited?” When I consider the idea of translation as community, I think of this moment in my fifthand sixthgrade classroom. In this conversation between students, there were also the echoes of many other voices, both heard and unheard. To begin, there were the words of Rosa Chávez herself:
大卫坐在我们小教室图书馆的角落里,伊莎贝尔把他叫到她的小组里。“大卫,我们需要你!在危地马拉西班牙语中,‘miran’是什么意思?”大卫坐下来,与团队安静地交谈,他们正在翻译罗莎·查韦斯的诗歌《Ri Ti'Tuj/La Abuela de Temescal》。我无意中听到了一些关于西班牙语和英语句法差异的对话片段。“我们在翻译时必须改变语序,”伊莎贝尔向小组的另一名成员维克多解释道。小组中的四名学生中有三名是传统的西班牙语使用者,与西班牙语有着多种关系;他们的家人来自萨尔瓦多、多米尼加共和国和危地马拉。大卫是这首诗的专家。几分钟后,他试图再次离开,但小组给他回了电话,问他一个问题:“你认为什么更适合这里的‘访问者’?访问我们,还是我们访问过?”当我把翻译视为社区的想法时,我想到了在我五、六年级教室里的这一刻。在学生之间的这段对话中,也有许多其他声音的回声,无论是听到的还是闻所未闻的。首先,罗莎·查韦斯自己说过:
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Blossom 开花
IF 0.5 3区 文学 0 LANGUAGE & LINGUISTICS Pub Date : 2023-01-02 DOI: 10.1080/07374836.2023.2179798
Aria Aber
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The Claims of Nations and Kings 国家和国王的要求
IF 0.5 3区 文学 0 LANGUAGE & LINGUISTICS Pub Date : 2023-01-02 DOI: 10.1080/07374836.2023.2179303
S. Deb
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In Real Time 实时
IF 0.5 3区 文学 0 LANGUAGE & LINGUISTICS Pub Date : 2023-01-02 DOI: 10.1080/07374836.2023.2179290
Shene Mohammed
Alana Marie Levinson-LaBrosse and I have worked together for more than eight years translating Sorani Kurdish poets of the eighteen hundreds. We’ve experimented with poets, approaches to translations, and readings of literary works. The pedagogical effects of co-translation over the years created gradual, significant changes in my learning; it gave me a formative education in literature and literary translation. This project informed my knowledge of how language interacts in the Kurdish regions of Iraq and what these interactions create. The educational system of the eighteen hundreds being Arabic and religious, the literary influence traveling in all directions across Arabic, Turkish, Persian, and all the dialects and sub-dialects in between, built a very complex creative impetus for the poetry at the time that was unrestricted in literary influence and restricted in language and form. By reading these poems, we asked ourselves what kind of restrictions the writers placed upon themselves and whether to follow or defy those restrictions. When texts create an interactive world like this, they are open to new and changing interpretations as well as translations. The relationship Alana and I have built together working with these texts is constantly redefining the collaborative nature inherent in the literature and the educational nature inherent in co-translation. Translating alone is often a silent practice, at least for the beginning stages of translation. But the one clear distinction in our work together is that it starts with talking, and discussion is the main drive. Speaking in English starts the translation process, and it’s the act of speaking that not only amplifies the experience but also makes it educational. Hearing our minds while thinking, hearing thoughts formulate readings, transforms the drift of ideas in a mental effort into an embodied practice. We speak about the experience and at the same time experience the speaking. Sound is an essential device in the form and meaning of the poems we’re translating. We read the poems to each other and listen to our impressions on what the sounds are doing in each language. We transfer the sound from the text into the narrative of our discussions to assess how it travels back to us, in sensations and in images. In one instance of translating Nali, an eighteenth-century poet, when discussing a poem dedicated to his “room,” it became very clear that the contrast between the sound of words and the overall tone of the poem that Nali creates is at the core of understanding and recreating the poem. The original Arabic title hujra signifies a space, but its purpose varies from one region to another. This room was given to poets for spiritual practice and religious education and became a permanent space for their teachings, reflections, and writings, an intimate space that was solitary and communal at the same time depending on the hour of the day. Sometimes, in the poets’ home cities, the rooms beca
阿拉娜·玛丽·莱文森·拉布罗斯和我一起翻译索拉尼库尔德1800名诗人已经超过八年了。我们对诗人、翻译方法和文学作品的阅读进行了实验。多年来,合作翻译的教学效果使我的学习发生了渐进的、重大的变化;它给了我文学和文学翻译方面的形成性教育。这个项目让我了解了语言在伊拉克库尔德地区是如何相互作用的,以及这些相互作用产生了什么。十八世纪的阿拉伯语和宗教教育体系,跨越阿拉伯语、土耳其语、波斯语以及其间的所有方言和次方言的文学影响,为当时的诗歌建立了一种非常复杂的创作动力,这种动力在文学影响上不受限制,在语言和形式上也受到限制,我们问自己,作家们对自己施加了什么样的限制,是遵循还是无视这些限制。当文本创造了一个这样的互动世界时,它们就可以接受新的、不断变化的解释和翻译。Alana和我在处理这些文本时建立的关系不断地重新定义了文学中固有的合作性质和翻译中固有的教育性质。单独翻译通常是一种无声的练习,至少在翻译的最初阶段是这样。但我们合作的一个明显区别是,它始于交谈,而讨论是主要动力。用英语说话开始了翻译过程,而说话的行为不仅放大了经验,而且使其具有教育意义。在思考时倾听我们的思想,倾听思想形成解读,将精神努力中的思想漂移转化为具体的实践。我们谈论经验,同时也体验演讲。声音是我们翻译的诗歌形式和意义的重要组成部分。我们互相朗读诗歌,倾听我们对每种语言中声音所起作用的印象。我们将声音从文本转移到我们讨论的叙事中,以评估它是如何在感觉和图像中回到我们身边的。在一个翻译18世纪诗人纳利的例子中,当讨论一首献给他的“房间”的诗时,很明显,纳利创作的诗歌的声音和整体基调之间的对比是理解和再现这首诗的核心。最初的阿拉伯语标题hujra表示一个空间,但其用途因地区而异。这个房间是为诗人提供精神实践和宗教教育的,并成为他们教学、思考和写作的永久空间,一个亲密的空间,根据一天中的时间,它是孤独的,同时也是公共的。有时,在诗人的家乡城市,这些房间变成了一个永久的个人空间。但诗人们在旅行教学或学习一段时间时,总有其他临时房间。这首诗中的批评声音可以被解读为它是哪种类型的房间;声音也可以是一种意思幽默、语气严肃的语言。Nali的诗中有许多诗句,表达了对他的房间的深深依恋;但在这个例子中,这个房间被描述为一个“笼子”,用“蜘蛛的经线和纬线”困住了他,屋顶“破旧得像摇篮里的毯子”,夏天没有树荫,所以房间里有“变色龙,太阳崇拜者,弥撒者”,冬天冷得“这不是一个房间。可以称之为四壁之间的寒意。”。“它被雨水淹没,变成了雪“面粉”的“磨坊”。在冰雹中,每个人都跑到“医生那里/卷着裤脚,张开头。”我们从一开始就确定了这首诗的基调:《翻译评论2023》,第115卷,第1,3–5期https://doi.org/10.1080/07374836.2023.2179290
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A Literary Translation in the Making: A Process-Oriented Perspective 创作中的文学翻译:过程导向视角
IF 0.5 3区 文学 0 LANGUAGE & LINGUISTICS Pub Date : 2023-01-02 DOI: 10.1080/07374836.2023.2179823
Hong Diao
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A Conversation Between Forrest Gander, Shook, and Alana Marie Levinson-Labrosse on Translation, Art, and Communit(ies) Forrest Gander、Shook和Alana Marie Levinson Labrosse关于翻译、艺术和圣餐的对话
IF 0.5 3区 文学 0 LANGUAGE & LINGUISTICS Pub Date : 2023-01-02 DOI: 10.1080/07374836.2023.2179298
F. Gander, Shook, A. Levinson-LaBrosse
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Metaphors in the Space Between 介于两者之间的隐喻
IF 0.5 3区 文学 0 LANGUAGE & LINGUISTICS Pub Date : 2023-01-02 DOI: 10.1080/07374836.2023.2179794
Clare Sullivan
Natalia Toledo writes poetry in Isthmus Zapotec, a language spoken in Mexico’s Oaxacan Peninsula that belongs to the Otomanguean family. She has published five volumes of bilingual poetry (Zapotec-Spanish), and her verses have been translated into languages as varied as German, Slovenian, and Chinese. Like many poets who write in the indigenous languages of Mexico, she translates her own writing into Spanish. The vast majority of indigenous poets are their own translators because no professional cohort exists to provide such services. Mexico in particular, with more than sixty languages, each with its own variants, has no infrastructure to translate texts for educational or artistic purposes. Thus, poets who write in originary languages must often translate themselves if they want to be read beyond their own language. Toledo has sometimes created the Spanish text first or even written both at the same time. (When translating into Spanish, she often replaces Zapotec words with Nahuatl because this language, with many more speakers, has permeated Mexican Spanish.) This creation process undermines fixed notions of an original text, because the poems are in flux as the author works back and forth between Zapotec and Spanish. In her book Literary Translation and the Making of Originals, Karen Emmerich explains that, given the many iterations any work undergoes via edition and translation, there really is no such thing as an original text. She proposes that we “replace an outdated understanding of translation as a transfer or transmission of some semantic invariant with a more reasonable understanding of translation as a further textual extension of an already unstable literary work.” In this way, she frees translation from the limiting idea of one text/ one author/one translator and recognizes the process of creation and recreation that actually takes place. Working with the bilingual poetry of Natalia Toledo provides an example of this dynamic and varied process.
纳塔利娅·托莱多(Natalia Toledo)用萨波特克地峡(Isthmus Zapotec)写诗,萨波特克是墨西哥瓦哈卡半岛的一种语言,属于奥斯曼家族。她出版了五卷双语诗歌(Zapotec西班牙语),她的诗歌被翻译成德语、斯洛文尼亚语和汉语等多种语言。像许多用墨西哥土著语言写作的诗人一样,她把自己的作品翻译成西班牙语。绝大多数土著诗人都是自己的翻译人员,因为没有专业团队提供此类服务。尤其是墨西哥,有60多种语言,每种语言都有自己的变体,没有基础设施来翻译用于教育或艺术目的的文本。因此,用原始语言写作的诗人如果想被超越自己的语言阅读,就必须经常自己翻译。托莱多有时会先创作西班牙语文本,甚至同时创作这两种文本。(在翻译成西班牙语时,她经常用纳瓦特尔语代替扎波特克语,因为这种语言的使用者更多,已经渗透到了墨西哥西班牙语中。)这种创作过程破坏了对原文的固定观念,因为当作者在扎波特克和西班牙语之间来回工作时,诗歌会不断变化。Karen Emmerich在她的《文学翻译与原作的制作》一书中解释说,考虑到任何作品通过编辑和翻译进行的多次迭代,真的没有原作这回事。她建议我们“用更合理的理解来取代对翻译的过时理解,将翻译理解为对已经不稳定的文学作品的进一步文本延伸。”,她将翻译从一个文本/一个作者/一个译者的局限性观念中解放出来,并认识到实际发生的创造和再创造过程。与纳塔利娅·托莱多的双语诗歌合作提供了一个例子,说明了这一动态和变化的过程。
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