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Pensando a tradução com Saussure: uma outra consideração da sincronia e da diacronia 与索绪尔一起思考翻译:对同步性和历时性的另一种思考
Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019V1N62P344-363
Sara Luiza Hoff
A traducao e uma atividade que necessariamente implica a consideracao de questoes relacionadas ao tempo, posto que o texto a ser traduzido sempre se origina em um momento anterior ao do ato de traduzi-lo. Este trabalho se baseia nessa perspectiva e considera como os conceitos de sincronia e diacronia, propostos por Ferdinand de Saussure, se relacionam a pratica tradutoria. Enquanto a leitura estruturalista de Saussure muitas vezes defendeu a dissociacao completa entre essas duas nocoes, a traducao evidencia que a diacronia e a sincronia se relacionam intima e mutuamente. Portanto, o fenomeno tradutorio se torna um modo de apontar para a necessidade de, em certos casos, considerar a sincronia e a diacronia conjuntamente. Thinking about translation with Saussure: another consideration of synchrony and diachrony Translation is an activity that sometimes implies matters relating to time, since the text to be translated may originate in a moment previous to the act of translation. This perspective is the basis for this study, which considers how the concepts of synchrony and diachrony, proposed by Ferdinand de Saussure, relate to the practice of translation. While the structuralist interpretation of Saussure often advocated a complete dissociation between these two notions, translation seems to indicate that diachrony and synchrony are closely and mutually related. Therefore, the translation phenomenon becomes a way of indicating that there is a need to take synchrony and diachrony into account jointly in some cases. Keywords: Translation. Diachrony. Synchrony. Linguistic value DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019v1n62p344-363
翻译是一种必然需要考虑与时间有关的问题的活动,因为要翻译的文本总是起源于翻译行为之前的一个时刻。本文以这一视角为基础,探讨索绪尔提出的同步性和历时性概念与翻译实践的关系。虽然索绪尔的结构主义解读经常为这两种击倒之间的完全分离辩护,但翻译表明历时性和同步性是密切相关的。因此,翻译现象成为一种方式,指出在某些情况下需要同时考虑同步性和历时性。与索绍尔一起思考翻译:另一种考虑翻译同步和历时性的活动,有时涉及到与时间有关的问题,因为要翻译的文本可能起源于翻译行为之前的某个时刻。这一观点是本研究的基础,它考虑了费迪南·德·索绪尔提出的同步和历时概念与翻译实践的关系。虽然索萨尔的结构主义解释往往主张这两个概念之间的完全分离,但翻译似乎表明历时性和同步性是密切相关的。因此,翻译现象并不表明在某些情况下需要同时考虑同步和历时。关键词:翻译。Diachrony。Synchrony。语言值:10.28998/2317-9945.2019v1n62p344-363
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Saussure, Bréal e a questão do sentido 索绪尔,breal和意义问题
Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019V1N62P255-275
Dayanne Teixeira Lima
Sabe-se que Ferdinand de Saussure foi contemporâneo de Michel Breal. No entanto, um fato minimamente curioso e o da ausencia de uma discussao sobre as ideias de Breal na teorizacao de Saussure. Partindo desse pressuposto, o presente trabalho, de natureza teorica, tem o objetivo de discutir alguns aspectos da reflexao desses autores acerca do sentido , com o intuito de problematizarmos o "silencio" saussuriano em relacao as ideias do mestre frances. Para abordarmos a teorizacao saussuriana, partiremos de sua obra postuma, o Curso de linguistica geral , de 1916, e dos manuscritos reunidos e publicados, em 2002, por Simon Bouquet e Rudolf Engler nos Escritos de linguistica geral ; ja a perspectiva brealiana sera abordada a partir de seu Ensaio de semântica , publicado em 1897. Parece-nos que o estatuto necessariamente sincronico do signo , proposto por Saussure a partir da oposicao sincronia / diacronia , desautoriza a possibilidade de uma abordagem historica do sentido, tal como propos Breal. Saussure, Breal and the issue of the meaning It is known that Ferdinand de Saussure was a contemporary of Michel Breal. However, a minimally curious fact is the absence of a discussion of Breal's ideas in Saussure's theorizing. Based on this assumption, the present work, of a theoretical nature, has the objective of discussing some aspects of the reflection of these authors about the meaning, in order to problematize the saussurian "silence" in relation to the french master ideas. In order to approach Saussurian theorization, we will start with his posthumous work, the General Linguistics Course of 1916, and the manuscripts collected and published in 2002 by Simon Bouquet and Rudolf Engler in the Writings in General Linguistics ; the brealian perspective will be approached from his Semantic Essay , published in 1897. It seems to us that the necessarily synchronic status of the sign, proposed by Saussure from the synchrony/diacrony opposition, deters the possibility of a historical approach to meaning, as Breal proposed. Keywords: Saussure. Breal. Meaning. Synchrony and Diacrony DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019v1n62p255-275
费迪南德·德·索索是米歇尔·布雷尔的同时代人。然而,一个非常奇怪的事实是,在索绪尔的理论中没有对布雷尔的思想进行讨论。基于这一假设,本文的理论性质旨在探讨这些作者对意义的反思的一些方面,以质疑索绪尔关于弗朗西丝大师思想的“沉默”。为了探讨索绪尔的理论,我们将从他1916年的著作《一般语言学课程》(postuma)和2002年西蒙·花束和鲁道夫·恩格勒(Simon Bouquet)收集并出版的《一般语言学著作》手稿开始;布雷利亚的观点将从他1897年发表的《语义学》文章中进行探讨。在我们看来,索绪尔从同步性/历时性的对立中提出的符号的必然同步性地位,否定了布雷尔所提出的意义的历史方法的可能性。= =地理= =根据美国人口普查,该镇的土地面积为,其中土地面积为。= =地理= =根据美国人口普查,这个县的面积为。在这个假设的基础上,目前的工作,一个理论性质,有一个目的来讨论这些作者关于意义的反思的某些方面,以便质疑索索里安的“沉默”与法国大师的思想。为了研究索萨里的理论,我们将从他的著作《1916年一般语言学课程》开始,以及西蒙·布奎特和鲁道夫·恩格勒于2002年在一般语言学著作中收集和出版的手稿;brealian角度will be approached从语义的文章,发表在1897年。似乎对我们的necessarily synchronic状态的标志,提出了索绪尔synchrony / diacrony反对派的可能性,deters Breal提出的历史意义,方法。关键词:索绪尔。Breal。形式主义。他的父亲是一名律师,母亲是一名律师。
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Restabelecendo as relações fundamentais: da linguística histórica à linguística moderna 重建基本关系:从历史语言学到现代语言学
Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019V1N62P276-295
A. Marques
Neste trabalho, apresentamos uma leitura da nocao de relacao na reflexao teorica do neogramatico Hermann Paul em cotejo com a elaboracao teorica de Ferdinand de Saussure. Essa leitura demonstrara como a nocao de relacao e tratada, na reflexao de Paul, de maneira secundaria, principalmente, em funcao do entendimento da mudanca, diferentemente do que acontece na reflexao saussuriana, na qual ela ocupa lugar de destaque. Para tanto, procederemos com uma revisao bibliografica da obra Principios Fundamentais da Historia da Lingua de Hermann Paul, dando enfase as passagens em que a nocao de relacao e mobilizada por ele e, oportunamente, estabeleceremos uma comparacao com a proposta teorica saussuriana que se apresenta na edicao do Curso de Linguistica Geral . Re-establishing the fundamental relations: from historical linguistics to modern linguistics In this paper, we present an analysis of the notion of relation at theoretical reflection of the neogrammarian Hermann Paul in comparison with the theoretical elaboration of Ferdinand de Saussure. This analysis will show how the notion of relation is treated, in Paul's reflection, in a secondary way, mainly for the understanding of change, unlike what happens in Saussurian reflection, in which it occupies a prominent place. Therefore, we will proceed with a bibliographical revision of Fundamental Principles of the History of the Language by Hermann Paul emphasizing passages in which the notion of relation is mobilized by him and, timely, we will establish a comparison with the theoretical Saussurian proposal that appears in the edition of the Course in General Linguistics . Keywords: Relation. Linguistics. Neogrammarian. Ferdinand de Saussure DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019v1n62p276-295
在这项工作中,我们阅读了新语法赫尔曼·保罗的理论反思中的关系概念,并比较了索绪尔的理论阐述。这篇文章展示了在保罗的反思中,关系的概念是如何被次要地对待的,主要是作为对变化的理解的功能,不像在索绪尔的反思中,关系占据了突出的位置。修订出版。和你这么多,我们的工作基本原则的历史语言的赫尔曼•保罗强调所有通道的nocao关系和用于他,及时拟定一个比较理论与提案saussuriana如果给你编辑的普通语言学课程。重新-establishing基本关系:从历史语言学到现代语言学这篇论文中,我们现在分析的关系的概念在理论上的反映neogrammarian赫尔曼·保罗在完成与索绪尔的理论elaboration斐迪南二世。分析将会显示这样的概念关系进行热处理,在保罗的反射,在中学历史的理解,主要变化,unlike发生在Saussurian反射,其中make it occupies prominent巷。因此,我们将proceed文献修订的基本原则的历史语言的赫尔曼·保罗emphasizing段落,动员的关系是由他和概念,及时的完成,我们将establish理论Saussurian提议,出现在普通语言学课程的版。关键词:关系。语言学。Neogrammarian。费迪南德·德·索萨尔DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019v1n62p276-295
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O lugar da escrita na reflexão saussuriana sobre o objeto da Linguística 写作在索绪尔对语言学对象的反思中的地位
Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019V1N62P127-151
G. F. Oliveira
O artigo ora apresentado visa a responder as seguintes questoes: 1) Que nocoes de escrita podem ser derivadas da reflexao saussuriana sobre o objeto da Linguistica? 2) Qual e o lugar assumido pela escrita na delimitacao do objeto da ciencia da lingua no CLG? Para tanto, o estudo investiga as relacoes entre a escrita e a materia da Linguistica, a escrita e o objeto da Linguistica e o lugar da escrita na zona fronteirica entre as Linguisticas da lingua e da fala e os elementos internos e externos a lingua. A investigacao levada a cabo permite derivar, da obra fundadora da Linguistica moderna, diversas nocoes de escrita , cuja elaboracao vai a par com a das nocoes de linguagem , lingua e fala , o que possibilita compreender a escrita como um contraponto necessario ao entendimento destas e, por conseguinte, do objeto da ciencia da lingua. The place of writing in Saussurean reflection on Linguistics’ object The present article aims to answer the following questions: 1) What notions of writing can be derived from the Saussurean reflection on the object of Linguistics? 2) What is the place that writing takes in the delimitation of the object of the science of language in the Course of General Linguistics? Therefore, the study investigates the relations between writing and the matter of Linguistics, the writing and the object of Linguistics and the place of writing in the frontier zone between the Linguistics of language and the Linguistics of speech and the elements that are both internal and external to language. The undertaken research allows us to derive, from the founding work of modern Linguistics, several notions of writing, whose elaboration goes hand in hand with the notions of language, langue and parole, which therefore enable us to comprehend writing as a necessary counterpoint to the understanding of these notions and, consequently, of the object of the science of language. Keywords: Langage. Langue. Parole. Writing. Object of Linguistics DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019v1n62p127-151
作为一个回应者,artigo或apresentado签证是一个问题:1)没有人能描述语言的目的吗?2) 是否有人认为这是一个没有CLG的语言科学目标?特别是,作为一种语言材料的描述,一种语言对象的描述,以及一种语言内部和外部元素的描述。一项研究是一个许可证的衍生者,一个现代语言学基金会,一个多元化的语言,一个语言的多样性,一个法语的多样性的多样性。写作在索绪尔对语言学对象的反思中的地位本文旨在回答以下问题:1)从索绪尔的语言学对象反思中可以得出什么写作概念?2) 在一般语言学课程中,写作在界定语言科学对象方面的地位是什么?因此,本研究考察了写作与语言学的关系,写作与语言学对象的关系,以及写作在语言语言学与言语语言学的边界地带的位置,以及语言的内部和外部因素。所进行的研究使我们能够从现代语言学的奠基工作中得出几个写作概念,这些概念的阐述与语言、语言和假释的概念密切相关,因此,这些概念使我们能够将写作理解为对这些概念的理解的必要对比,从而理解语言科学的目标。关键词:语言。朗格。假释写语言学研究对象DOI:10.28998/2317-945.2019v1n62p127-151
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A linguística saussuriana e a multiplicidade das línguas 索绪尔语言学和语言的多样性
Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019V1N62P33-51
Fernando Silva e Silva
Este trabalho aborda a ciencia saussuriana de maneira historica e filosofica, de modo a oferecer uma leitura da obra de Ferdinand de Saussure que destaca a concepcao que o autor possuia da lingua e da linguagem, atravessada por conceitos nao tao comumente enfatizados nos estudos saussurianos, em especial a analogia e o virtual. Atraves desses conceitos, o fenomeno linguistico apresenta-se de forma muito peculiar na obra do linguista, pois trata-se de um fenomeno extremamente fluido e mutavel no espaco, no tempo e nas comunidades falantes. Finalmente, mostro como boa parte do interesse de Saussure, e do desafio da atividade do linguista para ele, esta em desenvolver um instrumental conceitual –e um entendimento filosofico – que o habilite a momentaneamente capturar os fluxos da lingua fugidia e multipla para descreve-la a partir de suas caracteristicas imanentes. The Saussurean linguistics and the multiplicity of languages This work approaches saussurean science in both a historical and philosophical way so as to offer a reading of Ferdinand de Saussure’s oeuvre which highlights the conceptions of langue and language held by the author, which are informed by concepts not so often emphasized in Saussurean studies, analogy and virtual specially. Through these concepts the linguistic phenomenon presents itself in a very unique form in Saussure’s work, because it is an extremely fluid phenomenon that changes in space, in time and in the speech communities. Finally, I show how a considerable part of Saussure’s interest, and for him the challenge in the linguist’s work, lies in developing the conceptual instruments – and the philosophical understanding – which renders them capable of momentarily capturing the flowing of the fleeting and multiple langue in order to describe it from its immanent characteristics.  Keywords: Ferdinand de Saussure. Linguistic theory. Analogy. Virtual. Multiplicity DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019v1n62p33-51
这个地址saussuriana科学历史的方法和理念,以提供一个阅读的作品,索绪尔强调作者得到的整体设计概念,通过语言的语言和不那么经常强调学习saussurianos,尤其是类比和虚拟。通过这些概念,语言现象在语言学家的作品中以一种非常特殊的方式呈现出来,因为它在空间、时间和语言社区中是一种极其流动和多变的现象。终于我像大部分的利益索绪尔的语言学家对他的挑战的活动,这在概念开发一个工具—和—哲学的理解是,让他忍不住想捕捉语言流的多个描述她从固有的特点。Saussurean语言学和语言multiplicity这个工作方法Saussurean科学在历史和哲学方法是提供阅读Ferdinand de Saussure’的作品,强调了语言和语言举行的conceptions作者,这是通知的概念不太经常emphasized Saussurean研究,类比和虚拟specially。通过这些概念的语言现象提出了自己的一种独特的形式在索绪尔’的工作,因为它是一个非常流体现象,在时间和空间的变化,语音社区。最后,我表演的considerable索绪尔的一部分’的兴趣,是他的挑战linguist’的工作,在于开发工具—概念和哲学理解—这将他们的能力momentarily capturing fleeting的流动和多种语言来描述它的immanent特征。关键词:费迪南德·德·索绪尔。语言学理论。类比。虚拟的。电话:+ 32 (0)2 881 - 881
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A problemática acerca da edição das notas saussurianas: um livro sem fim nem começo ou um livro de areia a la Borges? 索绪尔笔记编辑的问题是:一本没有开始也没有结束的书还是一本博尔赫斯的沙书?
Pub Date : 2019-01-01 DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019V1N62P191-214
A. Scherer, Maria Iraci Sousa Costa
O presente artigo desenvolve uma reflexao acerca do complexo processo de edicao dos manuscritos saussurianos. A partir do estudo comparativo das notas de Ferdinand de Saussure publicadas em edicoes diferentes, como por exemplo, as notas editadas por Robert Godel e publicadas na revista Cahiers (1954), as notas editadas por Simon Bouquet e Rudolf Engler (2002) e tambem as notas editadas por Rene Amacker (2011), sustentamos que cada edicao publicada constitui-se como um livro de areia , no sentido poetico e metaforico atribuido por Borges. Cada uma dessas publicacoes de notas manuscritas saussurianas apresenta uma ordem que lhe e propria, atribuindo ao texto uma linearidade singular. Como sabemos, apenas uma pequena parte dos manuscritos saussurianos foi editada e publicada e, mesmo essa pequena parte desdobra-se em sucessivas (re-)edicoes, cada qual dando um novo/outro (re-)arranjo, o que nos faz refletir acerca da ordem e da (im)possivel linearidade das notas saussurianas no tocante aos criterios dados pelos seus editores. The problem concerning the edition of Saussurean notes: a book with no end nor beginning, or a book of sand in the manner of Borges? The present article develops a reflection on the complex process of editing the saussurian manuscripts. From the comparative study of Ferdinand de Saussure's notes published in different editions, for example, the notes edited by Robert Godel and published in the Cahiers (1954) journal, the notes edited by Simon Bouquet and Rudolf Engler (SAUSSURE, 2002) and the notes edited by Rene Amacker (2011), we maintain that each edition published is a book of sand, in the poetic and metaphorical sense attributed by Borges. Each one of these publications of saussurian handwritten notes presents an order that is its own, assigning to the text a singular linearity. As we know, only a small part of the Saussurian manuscripts has been edited and published, and even this small part unfolds in successive (re-) editions, each giving a new/another (re-)arrangement, which makes us reflect on of the order and (im)possible linearity of the Saussurian notes in relation to the criteria given by its editors. Keywords: Book of sand. Saussurian manuscripts. Editions DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019v1n62p191-214
本文对索绪尔手稿复杂的编辑过程进行了反思。从索绪尔的Ferdinand纸币的比较研究发表在edicoes不同,例如,成绩由罗伯特·哥德尔和编辑出版杂志《电影手册》(1954),成绩在鲁道夫·平(2002)和Simon花束也成绩被削减的Rene Amacker(2011),维持每编辑出版是像一本书的沙子,诗意和metaforico属于博尔赫斯。每一份索绪尔手稿笔记的出版都有自己的顺序,赋予文本一种独特的线性。众所周知,只有一小部分的手稿saussurianos编辑和出版,甚至连这一小部分的展开(-)edicoes,各人都给予一个新的/其他(-)安排让我们深思熟虑的秩序(im)可能的线性笔记saussurianas关于数据的编辑标准。版的问题关于Saussurean叫做:书与书朝开始,并在最后的沙子在博尔赫斯的方式?礼品的文章develops复杂过程的反思编辑《saussurian手稿。费迪南德Saussure'的笔记比较研究的发表在不同的版本,精简为例,指出由罗伯特•哥德尔和发表在《电影手册(1954)》,叫做精简西蒙束和鲁道夫断(索绪尔,2002)和精简的叫做雷Amacker(2011),我们保持每个版发表的沙上,书里的诗意和metaphorical识attributed博尔赫斯。每一个这些出版物的saussurian handwritten叫做呈现出一种秩序,是它自己的,assigning自然linearity的文本。正如我们所知,只有一小部分的Saussurian手稿已经精简和出版,甚至小型unfolds一部分在这连续的(重新)版本,每一把新的/另一个(-)的安排,让我们反思的秩序和(im)可能linearity Saussurian指出其在与给定的标准编辑。《沙之书》。Saussurian手稿。版本号:10.28998/2317-9945.2019v1n62p191-214
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O espírito de Saussure: recepção e herança (a herança linguística saussuriana: Paris contra Genebra) 索绪尔精神:接受与遗产(索绪尔语言遗产:巴黎与日内瓦)
Pub Date : 2018-12-04 DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019v1n62p364-380
Christian Puech
The spirit of Saussure: reception and heritage (the Saussurean linguistic heritage: Paris against Genebra) DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019v1n62p364-380
索绪尔精神:接受和遗产(索绪尔语言遗产:巴黎反对Genebra) DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019v1n62p364-380
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O Curso em busca de autor 寻找作者的课程
Pub Date : 2018-12-04 DOI: 10.28998/2317-9945.2019v1n62p381-393
Jürgen Trabant
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